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PN Navy ship "accidentally" ram a Chinese towboat
Topic Started: Oct 19 2011, 03:24 AM (3,740 Views)
tendatu
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Sorry captain. I forgot to check the date.

Sorry.

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China demands Manila return seized fishing boats
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Posted at 10/20/2011 7:21 PM | Updated as of 10/20/2011 7:21 PM

BEIJING - China demanded today that the Philippines return fishing boats that it said were seized in disputed waters in the South China Sea after a collision between a Philippine Navy ship and a Chinese trawler.

"Chinese fisherman are completely justified at working in an area which has been a traditional fishing ground for generations. The actions taken by the Philippines have harmed the legitimate rights of Chinese fishermen," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said at a regular news briefing.

"We demand the Philippines unconditionally return the small boats as soon as possible and properly handle the relevant issues," she added, repeating that China had "indisputable sovereignty" of the Spratly Islands and its seas.

China, Taiwan and four South-east Asian states, including the Philippines, have conflicting claims over the Spratly Islands and other islets in the South China Sea, an area believed to have rich deposits of oil and gas. It is also a rich fishing ground.

The Philippines said yesterday that a Chinese fishing vessel had intruded into its territorial waters and a Philippine navy ship "accidentally" collided with a dinghy the Chinese boat was towing.

A Philippine navy boat was on patrol in the Reed Bank when it spotted a Chinese fishing vessel towing 35 smaller boats. When it tried to challenged the fishing vessel, it hit one of the dinghies.

Philippine Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario said the government would not apologise to China.

Claimants to the sea have been trying to cool tension after a series of disputes this year, including when Chinese patrol boats threatened to ram a Philippine-contracted survey ship in the Reed Bank in March.

China, which says it has indisputable sovereignty over the seas to its south and islands within, has rejected international arbitration of the conflicting claims, and has proposed joint development of resources.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/10/20/11...d-fishing-boats

This is rediculos! Lahat nalang ng nasa west philippine sea inaangkin na nila!
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No apologies to china and do not return those 25 boats without them chinese apologizing to the philippine government for entering our territorial waters. Those boats are also impounded and have to be paid to release them.
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The Chinese can pressure and provoke us, the Philippines cannot do anything about it. Whatya gonna do when they send their vessels?
Alas, our government will - sooner or later - back down because it knows fully well that it has no muscles (any defense capability to be reckoned with) to flex with in the first place.

Sad, but true folks.
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Oct 20 2011, 11:17 PM
The Chinese can pressure and provoke us, the Philippines cannot do anything about it. Whatya gonna do when they send their vessels?
Alas, our government will - sooner or later - back down because it knows fully well that it has no muscles (any defense capability to be reckoned with) to flex with in the first place.

Sad, but true folks.

agree. but we need to show that we are serious in claiming what is ours. i know US will stil play big factor if this will happen
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tendatu
Oct 20 2011, 10:39 PM
Sorry captain. I forgot to check the date.

Sorry.

No worries sir.. not a big deal.
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don't rely on other countries to support us! please make us proud to our selves, it is better to die fighting using our own strength rather than winning using others` muscle. it is really shameful every time we are being bullied, we run crying seeking help to the big brother U.S.

I am sorry but I, as an ordinary Filipino, I hate it, I wanted that we should stand our ground with our own feet. instead of crying for help, why not try flexing our muscles too! first, by improving our skills and increasing our resources; second, by innovating and developing our own capabilities; lastly, we should build our own arsenals! if we have all of those, I am sure we can exercise our muscles and not afraid to flex it if comes trouble.

right now, I know that we are weak but we should not act like a weakling. if trouble is on our way we should face it with our own strength. if it needs that we have to fight with only a sling shot then be it, it is our fault anyway, we did not do our homework. so fella` we should wake up, we should be doing our homework now! let us be proud as a Filipino nation! :fire:
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Oct 23 2011, 06:37 AM
don't rely on other countries to support us! please make us proud to our selves, it is better to die fighting using our own strength rather than winning using others` muscle. it is really shameful every time we are being bullied, we run crying seeking help to the big brother U.S.

I am sorry but I, as an ordinary Filipino, I hate it, I wanted that we should stand our ground with our own feet. instead of crying for help, why not try flexing our muscles too! first, by improving our skills and increasing our resources; second, by innovating and developing our own capabilities; lastly, we should build our own arsenals! if we have all of those, I am sure we can exercise our muscles and not afraid to flex it if comes trouble.

right now, I know that we are weak but we should not act like a weakling. if trouble is on our way we should face it with our own strength. if it needs that we have to fight with only a sling shot then be it, it is our fault anyway, we did not do our homework. so fella` we should wake up, we should be doing our homework now! let us be proud as a Filipino nation! :fire:

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Philippines: no immediate return of Chinese boats

MANILA, Philippines—The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said authorities will determine “through a legal process” whether to return to China several small fishing boats seized near the disputed Spratly Islands.


China has asked the Philippines to return the dinghies, which the navy seized last week from the Reed Bank in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea). China and the Philippines dispute ownership of the bank.

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Oct 19 2011, 05:45 PM

mag-apology ba kagad..

anu ba yan.. e nasa karagatan natin sila.. tanga lang naman talaga.. nakakatawa.. walang kahit anong pride.. so hindi kayo bagay mabansagang "Proud Navy"
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