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| 19 soldiers killed by MILF in Basilan clash | |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:30 PM Post #81 |
 
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Many here in Mindanao call this war as the "General's Game". Many generals like to be stationed here in Mindanao because of the money they can corrupt and get rich quick scheme. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux  Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| flipzi | Oct 20 2011, 09:33 PM Post #82 |
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the only solution is the SIBAKAN system. dapat sibakin yung top generals na responsible para maubos yung termites. |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:34 PM Post #83 |
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They rather see our soldiers wear old uniforms, crappy equipment and provide them with no advance intelligence so that they can proudly display their SUV's with PMA or General this on the front plate of their expensive cars. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:35 PM Post #84 |
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For me make those generals do the patrolling themselves and not give them any support. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:36 PM Post #85 |
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I have only one thing to say and that is "HELL". |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| Edmonski220 | Oct 20 2011, 10:34 PM Post #86 |
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this goverment is too soft! The govermnent has police powers which it needs to excercise which right now it isn't doing. The MILF is saying the military intruded into their territory. All I know is the Basilan is part of the Republic and the goverment has every right to chase criminals regardless of where they go. It's frustrating that the goverment is not doing anything to serve justice to the men who made the greatest sacrifice of giving up their lives. I'm starting to doubt the capability of this freaking goverment to fight for it's people. |
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| spearhead | Oct 20 2011, 10:40 PM Post #87 |
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1. The AFP need some modern gunships so badly and immediately such as AH-1 F Cobra or alike, and other required military equipments to be utilized in the battlefield. 2. Suspend peace talks and that federalism in mindanao, and punish all that are involved in killing those SF troopers. 3. Overhaul this questionable military system of sending newly graduate troopers to the battlefield without proper training or knowledge and proficient skills. Enhance military training with the use of FX simulation ammo or utilize the use of RAP4 Paintball scenario markers with paintball First Strike ammo, instead of sending fresh troopers to faceoff veteran opponents. |
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato  
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| zwahzhal | Oct 21 2011, 05:49 AM Post #88 |
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I'd go for Gen. A. Reyes. He was my Commandant during ROTC upto finish of Adv. He's a trully man of honor and a dedicated man. And I saw how painful it was to him when we had no choice but to extract then Pres. J. Estrada. Nevertheless, if we're talking about the CCAFP, I prefer Macoy, who totally had a dream to increase the capability of the Military then. But as I've said, this another unfortunate incident, demoralizing the units, same as occurrence during the ASG pugot-ulo ng brother-in-arms natin, should be a learning lesson and an eye opener: 1. To the squad/platoon/company leader, never conduct mssions/patrols w/o proper authorization. Don't show-off like a cowboy. 2. Never conduct mission/patrols w/o proper coordination on route. 3. When on an encounter, call for air support/close-air-support (CAS), whether rotary or fixed-wing. 4. Aerial support should always be ready to mobilize at any given time at a moment's call. 5. Ground troops' equipments should be enhanced for better engagement. 6. Equipments modernizatio n should immediately be provided. 7. Conduct refresher courses on training. It helps. 
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| ni84 | Oct 21 2011, 06:12 AM Post #89 |
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I heard from the TV5 that the reason for the Huey's not being able to land is that they were being fired upon. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| Hitman | Oct 21 2011, 06:48 AM Post #90 |
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its really hard now because the moro guerillas seem to have mastered the terrain in their areas of operation as normally guerillas do and the art of guerilla warfare. as you have read in news in afghanistan the taliban already shot down 2 CH 42 choppers there filled with special operators. same thing in any counter insurgency opn, the choppers will be very vulnerable in dropping reinforcements including medevacs. with rpgs and 50 cal sniper rifles can shoot down these choppers. the only thing the choppers can do is fly high and get exact location of main body of the rebels from troops on the ground and pepper them with rockets and missiles but to fly low during the heat of battle is very dangerous. what the Army can do is only send a 7 man recon teams of SRs or SFs and find the camps or temp encampments or locate company size rebels in the jungles and then call for an airstrike. the recon teams should avoid contact with the enemy. their mission is just combat intel, locate the enemy and report to CP or HQ for air strikes. this will minimize casualties on the government forces. with the enemy mastering their territory it wil be hard for any unit to enter without being detected not knowing they are entering a trap and killing zones. |
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