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| 19 soldiers killed by MILF in Basilan clash | |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 05:51 PM Post #61 |
 
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Any further peace talks with the MILF and its other associated groups like BIFF or ASG must be canceled and instead be given a direct deadline to surrender and give up as it seems that the MILF is just playing with the government and the people of the republic. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux  Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| zwahzhal | Oct 20 2011, 07:59 PM Post #62 |
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There are much things we can learn from here: 1. To the squad/platoon/company leader, never conduct mssions/patrols w/o proper authorization. Don't show-off like a cowboy. 2. Never conduct mission/patrols w/o proper coordination on route. 3. When on an encounter, call for air support/close-air-support (CAS), whether rotary or fixed-wing. 4. Aerial support should always be ready to mobilize at any given time at a moment's call. 5. Ground troops' equipments should be enhanced for better engagement. 6. Equipments modernizatio n should immediately be provided. 7. Conduct refresher courses on training. It helps. These loses of our comrade is a shame to the PH Govt and Military high ranks. 
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| flipzi | Oct 20 2011, 09:03 PM Post #63 |
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Good job, Generals! Great job for sending the 19 Army soldiers to their deaths. YOU CAN'T EVEN LAND YOUR CHOPPERS AND SEND AIR SUPPORT FAST ENOUGH. Good job, DND! You say it's MILF territory? Your are the AFP not a bunch of mercenaries. You should be the one ruling the land. |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:05 PM Post #64 |
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Now when will the blaming game begin? That would make the media go into a mad bloodhound. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| flipzi | Oct 20 2011, 09:06 PM Post #65 |
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Kung ako si PNoy, sisibakin ko lahat ng CO at yung mga involved sa planning and all. Many soldiers die because of your inability to make things right. Paulit-ulit na lang. Ambush.. nauubusan ng bala... naubusan ng dugo... walang reinforcement... walang rescue... this is sickening. |
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" Sovereignty resides in the people and all government authority emanates from them! - Art. II Sec 1, Philippine Constitution " " People don't care what we know until they know we care. " getflipzi@yahoo.com | |
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| flipzi | Oct 20 2011, 09:08 PM Post #66 |
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blaming them will not be enough. THEY MUST SUFFER FOR THE LOST OF 19 LIVES. |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:09 PM Post #67 |
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Why is it that it is becoming a habit that every time their is an ambush or engagement our side (military) would sustain heavy casualties and injuries? For me it is becoming unacceptable to hear 5 dead or 10 dead in a "bakbakan". It is just unacceptable. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:11 PM Post #68 |
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Sadly this will not be the last as more of our brave soldiers will have to face the reality that our generals and government officials failed them to be equipped and ready. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Oct 20 2011, 09:12 PM Post #69 |
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When will they learn? Another 19 dead or worse 100 or 1000 dead. For shame. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| matrix | Oct 20 2011, 09:15 PM Post #70 |
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Estrada: Aquino gov’t too soft on MILF By Christian V. Esguerra Philippine Daily Inquirer 5:13 pm | Thursday, October 20th, 2011 MANILA, Philippines—An incensed former president Joseph Estrada criticized the Aquino administration, on Thursday, for being “soft” on the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), whose troops killed 19 soldiers and wounded 13 others in Basilan on Tuesday. Estrada condemned the attack on members of the Philippine Army’s Special Forces, saying it smacked of “treachery as always” by the secessionist movement. “Malambot, malambot,” he told the Philippine Daily Inquirer by phone, referring to the government’s handling of the MILF. Senator Francis Pangilinan said the government peace panel should “review its current track to the path of peace and rethink its handling of the MILF given this latest unfortunate incident.” “It appears that the approach needs a serious review,” he said in a statement. “We cannot allow the MILF to dictate the terms and conditions of the peace process. This latest incident is a major setback in the efforts to secure a just and honorable peace.” Around 40 soldiers went to Al-Barka town to verify reports that armed groups were holding kidnap victims. Among the targets was Dan Laksaw Asnawi, who was involved in the beheading of 14 Marine soldiers in 2007. “Poor soldiers,” said Estrada, who launched an all-out war against the MILF in 2000. “So many of them have died in this conflict.” The former president noted that the attack came despite Aquino’s fresh efforts to negotiate peace with the Moro rebels. He cited unusual, one-on-one meeting with MILF chair Murad Ebrahim in Tokyo last August, a move apparently intended to provide a major impetus to the peace talks. “And still, the MILF keeps attacking our troops,” he said. “They cannot be trusted. There’s treachery as always. It’s a vicious cycle. It has to end.” Pangilinan sent his condolences to the families of the slain soldiers, saying “every single life lost in this conflict is a pin pricked in the heart of our nation.” “We grieve for our soldiers, their families and loved ones. They paid the ultimate price for our nation…We must work for genuine peace and usher in progress so that their deaths will not be in vain,” he said. Pangilinan added: “Government must firm up its resolve to end the root causes of social unrest and armed conflict in Mindanao so as to put meaning in the deaths of our men in uniform.” Estrada reiterated his call for a timetable of “three to six months” in the peace negotiations with the MILF. In that period, he said the government should make it clear which of the MILF’s demands would be tenable and which ones would be non-negotiable. “Once and for all, let’s end this conflict. We cannot wait for another 30 years,” he said. But in case the talks failed, he said the government should be prepared for an all-out conflict. “Sometimes you have to wage a war to achieve peace,” he said. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/79899/estrada...oo-soft-on-milf |
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