China demands war - Sino- Filipino Vietmamese WAR?

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China demands war - Sino- Filipino Vietmamese WAR?; China said "The Dragon’s Teaching"
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ni84	Sep 29 2011, 09:04 PM Post #31
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	In my own opinion we need to start buying long range strike aircraft mainly Su-34 Fullbacks into the inventory and Su-35 as they can provide a wide range of maritime strike options as a means of further making the WPS a dangerous place for PLAN warships.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


spearhead	Sep 29 2011, 09:06 PM Post #32
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	They may just gonna cripple the AFP's almost non existence capabilities to regroup and rearm, and its highly possible that they may include to attack the US forces around the region. That's highly expected from the side of china in case they attack any of the US allies, the resbak will be coming from uncle sam.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


spearhead	Sep 29 2011, 09:08 PM Post #33
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	ni84 Sep 29 2011, 09:04 PM In my own opinion we need to start buying long range strike aircraft mainly Su-34 Fullbacks into the inventory and Su-35 as they can provide a wide range of maritime strike options as a means of further making the WPS a dangerous place for PLAN warships. The philippines dont really need any long range assets since they are more in a defensive end. Usually, a military would not think about long range attack if they are indeed short in funds and are in a defensive position. However its obvious that if they do have extra money to afford more firepower then thats the right time to think about long range counter attack, or for offensive preemptive strike.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


ni84	Sep 29 2011, 09:12 PM Post #34
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	Urgency in this matter must be address, if the current leadership of the AFP cannot face the reality then we must replace the leadership. Did you know one time I had a discussion with a one star army general and that general did not know what I was talking about while a simple ROTC officer knew more than a general.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


ni84	Sep 29 2011, 09:15 PM Post #35
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	spearhead Sep 29 2011, 09:08 PM The philippines dont really need any long range assets since they are more in a defensive end. Usually, a military would not think about long range attack if they are indeed short in funds and are in a defensive position. However its obvious that if they do have extra money to afford more firepower then thats the right time to think about long range counter attack, or for offensive preemptive strike. The reason for my suggesting such assets can also be interpreted as a defensive posture as well. By having such assets on station around our waters will make the Chinese think twice of further escalating any potential conflict.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


spearhead	Sep 29 2011, 09:24 PM Post #36
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Wow finally multi-quoting works: ni84 Sep 29 2011, 09:12 PM Urgency in this matter must be address, if the current leadership of the AFP cannot face the reality then we must replace the leadership. Did you know one time I had a discussion with a one star army general and that general did not know what I was talking about while a simple ROTC officer knew more than a general. There are filipino generals there that doesnt really know whats goin on around them, and lack the capability to view the big picture. Whether it runs through their genes, or that was the way they were brought up and had lack the access to TV or radios, or simply did not learn much about military tactics, they were only got promoted through corruptions and "kompadre" way. ni84 Sep 29 2011, 09:15 PM The reason for my suggesting such assets can also be interpreted as a defensive posture as well. By having such assets on station around our waters will make the Chinese think twice of further escalating any potential conflict. That's actually would do as well, a defensive position that has the capability to counterstrike longer. The philippines maybe able to afford such capability only if they have this huge political backing to use more funds.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


ni84	Sep 29 2011, 09:39 PM Post #37
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	For me if all else fails then the prospect of developing a nuclear potential must be laid in the works. I know it would be difficult and has a huge security risk but our neighbors are also laying the down the foundation of actually getting nukes.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


AVBsupersonic	Sep 30 2011, 01:50 AM Post #38
Member Posts: 1,996 Group: Regulars Member #5,877 Joined: April 10, 2010	"Kapag tumapak sila sa RECTO Bank, parang tumapak din sila sa RECTO avenue!" So it's pretty clear coming from our Pres. Noynoy that it will be like invading the whole PHILIPPINES Mainland if they try to violate or claim ANY territories inside our EEZ. Let's hope he means what he said and will really do something to prevent and be ready in case anything happens... The PROC's are really crazy to release something like this article which is a direct threat to the PHILIPPINES and Vietnam.
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icefrog	Sep 30 2011, 02:30 AM Post #39
Posts: 6,518 Group: Elite Member #6,941 Joined: July 20, 2011	ni84 Sep 29 2011, 09:12 PM Urgency in this matter must be address, if the current leadership of the AFP cannot face the reality then we must replace the leadership. Did you know one time I had a discussion with a one star army general and that general did not know what I was talking about while a simple ROTC officer knew more than a general. I believe you!! It happens. You should have talked about Golf.
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Xwolf	Sep 30 2011, 02:32 AM Post #40
Member Posts: 334 Group: Regulars Member #6,890 Joined: July 6, 2011	in my opnion the chinese would do something similar to their confrontation with india. A limited attack on any forces inside the spratly domain. They wont attack any main islands but will hold all possible reefs and shoals they consider theirs. Beefing up our military to defend our national interest should be prioritized at most with purchases of proven equipment as fast as possible. Since US interest is also at part of the concern, i would suggest the lend-lease on modern MRF and OPV destroyers would help a lot. While we have better relations with the western powers over eastern bloc countries we could acquire more support leanning that way. Russian weapons are fine but then again since china has a better relations with russia than us, we might find ourself in a vise when push come to shove.
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