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| flipzi | Sep 13 2011, 12:53 PM Post #31 |
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Because it is complicated with the possibility of erupting into a full-scale war. The US-NATO intervention in Libya was necessary since the world's oil supply is affected by the crisis somehow. We've seen how unstable the oil prices here even in our country. The longer the Libyan crisis took, the higher the oil price would have gone up. Anyway, the majority of the people wanted it and the deposed President simply wants to hold on for personal reasons and not for the welfare of its citizens anymore. He chose to murder the people instead of handing over the leadership to the next to prevent bloodshed just like what former President Ferdinand Marcos did. Let's not also forget the fact that the issue was leaked while we and the US were hammering out an improved defense alliance. Either the activists or China had a hand on this. The situation out there is complex. The reliability of US foreign position improved with the exit of businessman GW Bush and the entry of Obama. The US needs to act on issues affecting its country, its policy and its current role, no matter what complexity comes across. It cannot allow itself to be slowed down or hindered by it. It can only allow finding a better approach. And so we too should. We are winning grounds in this part of the region with our partnership with the US. Let's not ruin it with this "GW Bush" foreign policy dilemma. |
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| ni84 | Sep 13 2011, 05:52 PM Post #32 |
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However, not everyone gets the message or see it the same, as long as hardliners view the US foreign policy as aggressive and will threaten their national security they will arm themselves and prepare every available avenue to nullify or deter the US military threat. Now if this "United States might take military action even though its own national security was not at stake" type of policy or attitude is their framework those countries that would be likely targets will make compel them to be more dangerous as it is. For me the better option is stay out of the affairs of other nations, they have no right nor business being their in the first place. Sooner or later their so-called "Policeman of the world" mentality will create even a bigger disaster. 9/11 is small in comparison in what those countries are capable of inflicting. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux  Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Sep 13 2011, 05:57 PM Post #33 |
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The world is Multipolar not Unipolar. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Sep 13 2011, 06:04 PM Post #34 |
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I hope by 2020 or 2030, a large number of nations will stand up and show a unified resistance to US foreign intervention and interference. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| ni84 | Sep 13 2011, 06:46 PM Post #35 |
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Their saying "God Bless America", I can say only one thing when God made the world USA was not in God's mind. Or for those who are atheist, when the universe was born out of a explosion and was formed USA did not just pop out. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| flipzi | Sep 13 2011, 09:10 PM Post #36 |
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Looking at the other concerns, if the US will not intervene, do you think it will really be a safer planet for all nations? A guaranteed yes for the big ones including the big bullies. But not for the weaker ones. China could have obliterated with carpet bombing all the islands in the Spratly's occupied by non-Chinese, if the US could not react on it. So, weaker nations like the Philippines, Kuwait, and even South Korea and Israel would have been easily defeated by the bigger nations or allied nations like the Arabs. Look at the world history. It's always been a natural desire of every nation to conquer, threaten or bully the weaker ones. It only stopped when the United Nations came into the scene. It only stopped when the least aggressive superpower started to lead. This is where i came to support that principle that it is better to have a superpower maintaining order for the common good. |
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| C.C. | Sep 13 2011, 09:25 PM Post #37 |
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You want another world war? Mmm, when was the last time the world multi-polar? Oh I remember, World War I and II. Remember Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler and Tojo? |
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| ni84 | Sep 13 2011, 09:25 PM Post #38 |
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For me it is good in a certain degree for a nation to prevent, deter and eliminate a military escalation or conflict but it is a big "NO" for any country to start entering, mingling and interfering in another nations internal affairs affairs. Once a nation starts doing that sort of irresponsible action that internal affair will escalate into a civil escalation and ones the populace puts a hardliner that internal squabble will turn into a much larger flash point. For me the US should be concerned in the balance of power but not in the internal conflicts and issues in any country. For me those who view that the US must intervene in any internal conflict will be surprise in what a cornered and angry country will do. The US can deter but not get involve in the internal squabbles, the US is not winning the hearts and minds of the people but is winning the hatred, anger, suspicion of many of world's government and people and if they continue with that attitude they will surely make a lot of nations put things in the ground that can fly 11 or 16 thousand kilometers and carry a payload that can make 9/11 a simple drive by. |
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We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000 | |
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| Furbolling | Sep 13 2011, 10:36 PM Post #39 |
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without the US we will be at the mercy of China!! do not forget that back in 1902 the US is determine to help the Filipino to self govern and they have greatly contribute in developing our nation and protecting us from invaders back in World War II!! without them the horror of World War II will once again felt by the Filipino!! the Chinese will invade neighboring country if no one will stop them!! the USA have done greatly to make this world peaceful some h0w because they act as the police force of our world!! without them smaller nation will perished including the Philippines!! |
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| Tsukiyomi | Sep 14 2011, 03:39 AM Post #40 |
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The usa has not made the smartest of decisions when it comes to intervening in the domestic affairs of other nations, but at the end of the day, in many cases the americans do more good than harm. Without the usa where would the problem in Bosnia-Herzegovina be? Without the canos, that place could still be a cesspool. Without the usa's constant efforts, the greeks and the turks would have already come to a serious conflict. Without the usa, Baby Doc Duvalier would still be torturing and killing hundreds of his own citizens each year in Haiti. Which nation led efforts to help them when an earthquake struck Haiti? Who provided the lions share of support to Southeast Asia and South Asia during the Tsumai crisis? Who carried out the Berlin airlift to protect the free citizens from the impending threat of the soviets who were trying to starve and freeze the west berliners out??? Who recently risked the health of the armed forces personnel to assist the Japanese in their most gravest crisis since WW2? Who saved Europes a$$ during WW2? Who saved our a$$ during WW2? Who has kept the Chinese from kicking our front door in? But again, they are not always perfect, no human is but damn you got to give them credit for trying to do the right thing even if their motives are sometimes questionable. I am not going to name names but my god, some of you continue to state things that have me question your patriotism and pragmatism in regard to our nations sovereignty and security. You expect us to handle the Chinese on our own? Some of you imply we should just bow down in the mud puddles and make a nice door mat for them to walk on. You are either ignorant or are playing for the wrong team. I am willing to bet some of you unquestionably support the 5 principles of peaceful coexistence -- A Chinese invention designed to limit Western influence and increase Chinese power in the world as they make nice with despot governments like their own so that the can reap the natural resources of that nation while the citizenry suffers. Make no mistake, the Americans supported some pretty bad people during the Cold War but it was a necessary evil based on perspective and they are paying for the decisions now. I seriously doubt the communist chinese government will be so circumspect if they were placed in the same situation. The world will never truly be a multipolar place. That is a pipe dream. There is a nation or two that would wish you to believe that but they themselves know that is a lie and are actively pursuing a hegemony of their own. If one "superpower" goes down, another nation will rise up and fill that void. This is repeated in history time and time again. If america goes down, do you honestly think the Chinese will not step in that role. I can assure you from my own research that they will not be anywhere near as benevolent. If they treat their own citizens so poorly, what makes you think they would treat us any better if they had carte blanch to do what they wanted? |
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