WikiLeaks: Moro rebels hunted down

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WikiLeaks: Moro rebels hunted down; 'high-value' terrorists
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 3 2011, 07:39 AM (2,076 Views)
spearhead	Sep 5 2011, 12:59 AM Post #11
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Boys, what you see is a prelude to MILF Bangsamoro independent substate where both the government and MILF officials are cooperating to help each others to combat terrorrism and crushing the communist rebels soon (thats why NDF are afraid of this idea and somehow telling the muslims to be careful with negotiating with manila, NPA are bunch of insecured losers). And yes its highly possible that the US is now involved in cooperating now with the MILF because they are backing the idea of the substate or a federal republic government, which ever the RP government will approve. So what's NOT TO LIKE? I mean dont you still get it, there are good moros and bad moros, good muslims, bad muslims, good bangsamoros, bad bangsamoros, good MILF, bad MILF? Buhay talaga ano hindi perpekto? You are bunch of ranters, really. That's funny too actually!
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


ni84	Sep 5 2011, 06:01 AM Post #12
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	spearhead Sep 5 2011, 12:59 AM Boys, what you see is a prelude to MILF Bangsamoro independent substate where both the government and MILF officials are cooperating to help each others to combat terrorrism and crushing the communist rebels soon (thats why NDF are afraid of this idea and somehow telling the muslims to be careful with negotiating with manila, NPA are bunch of insecured losers). And yes its highly possible that the US is now involved in cooperating now with the MILF because they are backing the idea of the substate or a federal republic government, which ever the RP government will approve. So what's NOT TO LIKE? I mean dont you still get it, there are good moros and bad moros, good muslims, bad muslims, good bangsamoros, bad bangsamoros, good MILF, bad MILF? Buhay talaga ano hindi perpekto? You are bunch of ranters, really. That's funny too actually! Just because the US is talking with these people in relations with support in the Sub-state idea and jumping into the conclusion that our government would just simply bow down and approve it, well I can only say one thing "They do not live here!". To those who have no stake here in Mindanao especially those who live comfortably out of the range of their guns and those who do not live in the place that they are claiming especially us here in Zamboanga City, you can say anything you want but if this continues our small country will shatter to pieces.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


nonong	Sep 5 2011, 07:43 AM Post #13
Member Posts: 653 Group: Regulars Member #7,029 Joined: August 26, 2011	I agree with you ni84. The wikileaks secret revelations of the Americans working with the MILF warlord Murad should be published in our leading newspapers. Our people have the right to know why.... Why are they dealing with the MILF when it is public knowledge that the MILF are allied with the J.I., al quaeda, abu-sayaff and npa? They have tactical alliances with them. abu-sayaff seek sanctuary and support in MILF camps. There are documented reports on this. Copies of the secret wikileaks article should also be given to our congressmen and senators because of its defense and diplomatic implications. It might be true that Murad may have been playing a double agent game with them just to get American funding in hunting terrorists kuno. Sus ginoo! The MILF have sheltered bomb making camps! Murad called the Americans the "friends of bangsamoro" in the wiki leaks revelations.
	"In peace prepare for war, in war prepare for peace. The art of war is of vital importance to the state. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence under no circumstances can it be neglected." -Sun Tzu "Try and try until you die!" - Anonymous


nonong	Sep 5 2011, 07:54 AM Post #14
Member Posts: 653 Group: Regulars Member #7,029 Joined: August 26, 2011	On the other hand, If Murad played straight with the Americans in trying to hunt terrorists this was done to further the interests of the MILF in Mindanao. With American support and assistance they could become the dominant power in Southern Philippines. I wonder how much money was contributed to the MILF? One thing is for sure if he betrayed his jihadist allies, they will surely hunt him down. As i said before, a split into warring factions may happen because of it.
	"In peace prepare for war, in war prepare for peace. The art of war is of vital importance to the state. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence under no circumstances can it be neglected." -Sun Tzu "Try and try until you die!" - Anonymous


spearhead	Sep 5 2011, 07:59 AM Post #15
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Are you boys really serious in your dreams to not grant them a substate and further prolong this war? The MILF have made it clear that they will NOT BOW down to the RP government if they dont get their own state. nonong, ni84, what made you think that the MILF/Bangsamoro rebels would ever lay down their arms struggles? I'm telling you the more you brew this frictions between them and the government, the more mindanao will stay beyond unrepairable island, undeveloped, in war and in poverty. Yes you can say all you want, and dream all you want just like the way we dream of our AFP modernization, but the reality will still the same. Hindi nyo na makikitang uunlad ang mindanao kahit pagpapatayin nyo ang bawat rebeldeng muslim, kahit mapatay nyo pa si umbra kato dahil may papalit sa kanila kahit anong gawin nyo.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


ni84	Sep 5 2011, 08:23 AM Post #16
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	SURRENDER FIRST and do not allow foreign elements to come in and get entangled in our internal affairs. If they want peace that's fine but making a sub-state is totally out of the question, Kaliit-liit ng bansa natin tapos paliliitin pa lalo!!
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


ni84	Sep 5 2011, 08:26 AM Post #17
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	People out their who wants the Sub-state idea's and are advocating to give them a chance are a bunch of "Peace at all cost! People", you want peace with them so that your dreams of modernizing this nations military will come true, without thinking of what will happen to those who will be affected on the other side of this sub-state garbage.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


ni84	Sep 5 2011, 09:22 AM Post #18
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	spearhead Sep 5 2011, 07:59 AM Are you boys really serious in your dreams to not grant them a substate and further prolong this war? The MILF have made it clear that they will NOT BOW down to the RP government if they dont get their own state. nonong, ni84, what made you think that the MILF/Bangsamoro rebels would ever lay down their arms struggles? I'm telling you the more you brew this frictions between them and the government, the more mindanao will stay beyond unrepairable island, undeveloped, in war and in poverty. Yes you can say all you want, and dream all you want just like the way we dream of our AFP modernization, but the reality will still the same. Hindi nyo na makikitang uunlad ang mindanao kahit pagpapatayin nyo ang bawat rebeldeng muslim, kahit mapatay nyo pa si umbra kato dahil may papalit sa kanila kahit anong gawin nyo. I am dead serious in not granting them their FANTASY LAND SUB-STATE, if they do not bow down and surrender to the Government of the Republic of the Philippines I am willing to give them a piece of land from our property and bury them their so that our mango's will grow strong from their disgusting corpses.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


ni84	Sep 5 2011, 09:37 AM Post #19
Posts: 2,503 Group: Elite Member #7,006 Joined: August 16, 2011	Also if they do not bow down and throw their dream of sub-state to the dump in which it belongs I would tear to shreds and feed them to my pet dogs. My dogs are Pits, Dobes and German Shepherds all of which are fed with meat. And if the Americans continue to interfere in our affairs I would add them to the menu as well. Coming to our country and trying to interfere in our affairs, huh they should be busy trying to get out of their own domestic problems first.
	We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job. Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941 We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses. President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya Rossiyskoy Federatsii 15,000 nukes and enough for another 40,000


nonong	Sep 5 2011, 09:49 AM Post #20
Member Posts: 653 Group: Regulars Member #7,029 Joined: August 26, 2011	The track record of the MILF warlord group speaks for itself. Many of them are saying that the ARMM is useless and is corrupt. This is an allegation they make without looking at themselves in the mirror. I say the MILF warlord group will be more corrupt once they force the issue. How can Murad explain his huge mansion? He obviously has unexplained wealth from sources he will not reveal. His MILF militia practically live in hovels and ramshackle homes. Murad and the other warlords brokering a false, forced peace obviously eat well and dress well while their followers look like squatters. Terror funding from the Libyan dictator Ghadafi and other groups is a confirmed fact. I saw the pictures in the luwaran website. The MILF warlords looking so healthy with a good layer of fat and dressed in coat and tie. Expensive food and dress? You betcha.
	"In peace prepare for war, in war prepare for peace. The art of war is of vital importance to the state. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence under no circumstances can it be neglected." -Sun Tzu "Try and try until you die!" - Anonymous


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