Drilon slams military’s P11.5B golf course budget

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Drilon slams military’s P11.5B golf course budget
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 24 2011, 02:25 PM (1,442 Views)
truegrit	Aug 26 2011, 12:41 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,202 Group: Elite Member #28 Joined: July 23, 2004	IMHO, better not touch that Golf Course anymore as it generates revenues for internal expenses of those Camps as long as there is a COA report for it... I am afraid that if those Golf Courses were sold then the money will no longer be accounted for again just like what happen to the sale of Fort Bonifacio. Maybe Drilon has a Businessman padrino who tells him to sell the Villamor Golf Course which is beside several 5-star hotels like Marriott. Everytime there is that kind of idea of selling land to private owners, the government is always at the disadvantage. So Mr. Drilon better backoff or you will be the center of controversial for advocating the selling of Military lands to Private businesses. Time comes that we will learn that one of his siblings/ relatives is one of the owners or directors of corporation who bought it...



Hitman	Aug 26 2011, 09:09 PM Post #12
Member Posts: 934 Group: Regulars Member #5,856 Joined: March 10, 2010	gritpaladin Aug 26 2011, 12:41 PM IMHO, better not touch that Golf Course anymore as it generates revenues for internal expenses of those Camps as long as there is a COA report for it... I am afraid that if those Golf Courses were sold then the money will no longer be accounted for again just like what happen to the sale of Fort Bonifacio. Maybe Drilon has a Businessman padrino who tells him to sell the Villamor Golf Course which is beside several 5-star hotels like Marriott. Everytime there is that kind of idea of selling land to private owners, the government is always at the disadvantage. So Mr. Drilon better backoff or you will be the center of controversial for advocating the selling of Military lands to Private businesses. Time comes that we will learn that one of his siblings/ relatives is one of the owners or directors of corporation who bought it... EXACTLY, it is better that we save those precious prime golf course properties for future use when our government and AFP are already disciplined, honest and mature enough not to squander again the proceeds. besides the longer those properties are hold on to it as the years go by the higher the real estate prices will be. now with the pabaon and pasalubong and the PNP choppers still fresh and no one went to jail yet I dont know, this maybe another pabaon in the making, smells fishy.



spearhead	Aug 26 2011, 10:07 PM Post #13
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	gritpaladin Aug 26 2011, 12:41 PM IMHO, better not touch that Golf Course anymore as it generates revenues for internal expenses of those Camps as long as there is a COA report for it... I am afraid that if those Golf Courses were sold then the money will no longer be accounted for again just like what happen to the sale of Fort Bonifacio. Maybe Drilon has a Businessman padrino who tells him to sell the Villamor Golf Course which is beside several 5-star hotels like Marriott. Everytime there is that kind of idea of selling land to private owners, the government is always at the disadvantage. So Mr. Drilon better backoff or you will be the center of controversial for advocating the selling of Military lands to Private businesses. Time comes that we will learn that one of his siblings/ relatives is one of the owners or directors of corporation who bought it... But to what i understand (correct me if im wrong), the recent studies shows those golf courses are no longer generating much revenues. And if the maintenance cost is now higher than the revenue, it will only equal to negative profit. If that is indeed the case then so be it, sell it. Still, the military doesnt need 3 golf courses anyway so i say atleast leave 1 or 2 and sell the rest. You guys who opposes this idea, you should think more and weigh things over which one is a more priority for the military, relaxing time or equipping them with modern weapons? I am not saying that those freaking generals have no longer the rights to play, but sometimes they need to sacrifice their leisure in favor of better armaments for their own troops. These generals and other high ranking officials are not the one fighting at the front line, they are the head, the mind, and the tacticians. Beside, they havent sell those golf courses yet and here you are judging them outright that they would just be pocketing the revenues. Thats not cool. Thats unfair. Judge them after, not beforehand. Remember, PNoy's administration is now serious in taking down the corruptions. So we'll see. Coooool boys?
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


spearhead	Aug 26 2011, 10:14 PM Post #14
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Hitman Aug 26 2011, 09:09 PM gritpaladin Aug 26 2011, 12:41 PM IMHO, better not touch that Golf Course anymore as it generates revenues for internal expenses of those Camps as long as there is a COA report for it... I am afraid that if those Golf Courses were sold then the money will no longer be accounted for again just like what happen to the sale of Fort Bonifacio. Maybe Drilon has a Businessman padrino who tells him to sell the Villamor Golf Course which is beside several 5-star hotels like Marriott. Everytime there is that kind of idea of selling land to private owners, the government is always at the disadvantage. So Mr. Drilon better backoff or you will be the center of controversial for advocating the selling of Military lands to Private businesses. Time comes that we will learn that one of his siblings/ relatives is one of the owners or directors of corporation who bought it... EXACTLY, it is better that we save those precious prime golf course properties for future use when our government and AFP are already disciplined, honest and mature enough not to squander again the proceeds. besides the longer those properties are hold on to it as the years go by the higher the real estate prices will be. now with the pabaon and pasalubong and the PNP choppers still fresh and no one went to jail yet I dont know, this maybe another pabaon in the making, smells fishy. Atleast be consistent. If you are that serious in supporting the AFP modernization then you should be more matured, and reasonable. I thought you guys have joined us in rallying for more modern military hardwares dude? Ano ba naman yung ibenta kahit isa sa mga golf courses di ba? Beside, they could always come back and play there, iiba na nga lang ang may ari kung sakali. We'll never know, baka naman kaya pala gustong ibenta na yan ng administration ni PNoy dahil dyan kumikita ang iba nating kurap na sundalo, di kaya?
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


Tsukiyomi	Aug 30 2011, 01:44 AM Post #15
Member Posts: 464 Group: Regulars Member #6,124 Joined: December 14, 2010	Do not sell that real estate. Once you sell it, it is gone forever. You can lease it and have a guaranteed income as long as you still own it.



flipzi	Aug 30 2011, 01:59 AM Post #16
R-A-T-S Posts: 8,213 Group: Elite Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	Leasing would be okay to tap the idle lands.
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flipzi	Aug 30 2011, 12:26 PM Post #17
R-A-T-S Posts: 8,213 Group: Elite Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	Quote: DND report on golf course sale to be submitted in October By Alexis Romero (The Philippine Star) Updated August 30, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (10) MANILA, Philippines - The Department of National Defense (DND) would submit to the Senate in October the findings of the panel it formed to study the proposals to sell or lease the golf courses in military camps. DND spokesman Col. Hernando Iriberri said the findings would be forwarded to Sen. Franklin Drilon within 60 days after the senators suggested to the military to maximize the revenue from the golf courses in Metro Manila. “The study would take into account the costs and benefits of the proposal (to lease or sell the golf courses),” Iriberri told The STAR yesterday. He said a committee led by DND Undersecretary Honorio Azcueta is conducting the study. http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?artic...ubCategoryId=63
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spearhead	Aug 30 2011, 07:42 PM Post #18
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Yep thats good, leasing it out is another option. Just make sure that the revenue would still be monitored 100% monthly by honest auditors so it wouldnt end up in the wrong hands or misused.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


truegrit	Aug 30 2011, 08:31 PM Post #19
Posts: 2,202 Group: Elite Member #28 Joined: July 23, 2004	I say YES to LEASING but not SELLING... I have been to those 2 Golf courses in both Villamor and Aguinaldo and there were several golfers who plays there. Maybe its cheaper to play there than playing in Wack-wack... Important to remind is that there should be an Accounting for the expenses, membership fees and rentals.



spearhead	Aug 30 2011, 09:01 PM Post #20
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	gritpaladin Aug 30 2011, 08:31 PM I say YES to LEASING but not SELLING... I have been to those 2 Golf courses in both Villamor and Aguinaldo and there were several golfers who plays there. Maybe its cheaper to play there than playing in Wack-wack... Important to remind is that there should be an Accounting for the expenses, membership fees and rentals. No doubt there is an accounting system exists from those golf courses, as every business establishments are required by law to have general accounting. But if the head of accountants and bookeepers are crooked then we have a problem.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


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