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US hesitates on Philippine arms
Topic Started: Jul 2 2011, 12:39 PM (3,764 Views)
horizon Jul 2 2011, 12:39 PM Post #1
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 MANILA - Doubts are swirling in the Philippines over whether the United States will live up to its promise to provide its military with the weaponry and equipment needed to stand up to China's aggressions in the South China Sea. The concerns arise as the two sides launch their annual joint naval exercises, held this year near the contested Spratly Islands.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/MG02Ae03.html :armyeek:
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pachador Jul 2 2011, 01:50 PM Post #2


I have doubts about the purpose of this story as it is in a chinese newspaper in hongkong.

there is a war for the minds also and seems to me the story is trying to sow doubts. it does not jibe with other sources. For example, Ambassador Thomas already said many times the US will help. there is more to this story. There are groups and influential individuals in the philippines that are trying to help china- this is for certain. Anyway, the coming months will shed light on the truth and propaganda out there
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Samir_Duran Jul 2 2011, 04:08 PM Post #3
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 It's true comrade pachador. PROC is now engaged in PSYOPS. They try the best they can to build doubts on our treaty with the US. Battles and Wars in this century is not just fought in the battlefield anymore. It is fought in all fronts. May it be physically, emotionally, spiritually, morally, politically, and in cyber space.

If stricken by doubts, always return back to the basic belief you have and you will never waver. Have faith my compatriots. We will win this war even at the cost of each of our lives. I am ready to die for my country. ARE YOU? :rifle:
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horizon Jul 2 2011, 04:18 PM Post #4
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 The article was written by Al Labita, a Pinoy journalist based in Manila.
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Samir_Duran Jul 2 2011, 04:29 PM Post #5
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 The problem of the US in helping us out in arming ourselves is their bureaucracy. To much papers, security screenings, assessments, etc. :dunno:
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AVBsupersonic Jul 2 2011, 07:27 PM Post #6
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 It's always better to have a plan B just in case, let's not pour in all of our money with the US, and try to get quotations from other Country sources as well.
The more sources the better and we have the right to do that in accordance to our needs at the same time we'll have the chance comparing them notes...

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spearhead Jul 2 2011, 08:05 PM Post #7
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horizon
Jul 2 2011, 12:39 PM
MANILA - Doubts are swirling in the Philippines over whether the United States will live up to its promise to provide its military with the weaponry and equipment needed to stand up to China's aggressions in the South China Sea. The concerns arise as the two sides launch their annual joint naval exercises, held this year near the contested Spratly Islands.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/MG02Ae03.html :armyeek:

So indeed, the philippines are actually expecting the americans to immediately deliver those requested military hardwares. But some of the american politicians thought the philippines are rather unreliable ally. Then there was this reallocation of US military assistance in favor of Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam.

But how can us filipinos be reliable ally if these frakking corrupt generals kept stealing and misusing their military funds? There you go, and they wonder why the americans are now hesitant to help us? Oh well....
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While Manila has already submitted its "wish list," including the urgent need for naval frigates, long-range fighter aircraft and a couple of submarines, it's still unclear whether the US will grant any of them.

In the face of that uncertainty, Manila has even mulled the idea of paying the US to lease patrol boats in a bid to expedite Washington's bureaucracy. However, US Navy Task Force commander Rear Admiral Tom Carney has said that the US is not in the business of leasing its patrol boats.



Maybe the americans would rather sell their Perry class frigates, and they wanted the AFP to go bigger and not going smaller with those cyclone class patrol boats! Cmon filipino officials, dont be too cheap!!!!
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AVBsupersonic Jul 2 2011, 08:17 PM Post #8
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 Perry Classes are better for us! Small Patrol boats we can manufacture them locally if we want to as long as we have the "will and money" to do it...
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flipzi Jul 2 2011, 08:17 PM Post #9
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 The low rate of arms infusions into the Philippine military is indeed true.

Past records will attest to this. Compare how much weapons other countries got like Pakistan and you'll see that we are least of their priority.

Nonetheless, there were reasons on the Pakistan arms transfer or support. The Al Qaeda case compelled the US to support Pakistan that much.

The Hamilton-class ship is set to sail to Manila and Clinton has reiterated its support.

Best of all, PNoy himself allocated P14 billion for the military items.

Those facts overshadows the "US hesitation" news article by a Chinese newspaper who's obviously on a psyops mode.
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flipzi Jul 2 2011, 08:19 PM Post #10
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 In all, with or without the Spratly's issue, it is best that we modernize our military fast.

We aren't inclined to support a war but we must be prepared for the worst. :thumb:

I would love to hear over the news about PN boats sinking Chinese fishing boats too.
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