The PMA Mafia within the AFP and PNP

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The PMA Mafia within the AFP and PNP
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 29 2011, 08:07 PM (7,152 Views)
Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jan 31 2011, 09:37 AM Post #11
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	Catewrwaul is only expressing his points and opinion being so frustrated of the men who descended from the portals of the PMA to become plunderers (which is a fact) out of frustration raising a voice echoed from the taxpayers. It does'nt need to be an NPA or Communist to express grievances against those who in one way or the other enriched themselves by stealing people's money by military or non-military elements of our government within the auspices of democracy. My frustration is even far more greater than to that of Catewrwaul and I am not an NPA nor a communist and I am not as well surprise that there are growing dissent against the military that uplifts the existence of the rebels such as the NPA.
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


Samir_Duran	Jan 31 2011, 01:08 PM Post #12
THE GHOST Posts: 1,276 Group: Regulars Member #6,179 Joined: January 12, 2011	"id say close the PMA or make the cadets pay tuition" What an educated idea. And then after closing it, what?



caterwaul	Jan 31 2011, 03:24 PM Post #13
Member Posts: 384 Group: Regulars Member #51 Joined: July 30, 2004	hey poser, just because I criticize the PMA means im already a red symphatizer? so that would make Tulfo a communist too, clearly you are a poser, you are too dumb to be an intelligence officer as you claim to be ... what to do with the PMA after closing it ? easy, sell or lease it, proceeds for AFP modernization and welfare of disabled soldiers and veterans.



Samir_Duran	Jan 31 2011, 04:42 PM Post #14
THE GHOST Posts: 1,276 Group: Regulars Member #6,179 Joined: January 12, 2011	caterwaul Jan 31 2011, 03:24 PM hey poser, just because I criticize the PMA means im already a red symphatizer? so that would make Tulfo a communist too, clearly you are a poser, you are too dumb to be an intelligence officer as you claim to be ... what to do with the PMA after closing it ? easy, sell or lease it, proceeds for AFP modernization and welfare of disabled soldiers and veterans. LOL!!!! Do you think that by closing this institution that it will solve the corruption? Where is the logic on this? Come on, man! You do not even know how these applicants go through before they get admitted to the Academy. Do you understand what "it sounds like" means? Onion skin



Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jan 31 2011, 07:10 PM Post #15
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	Hi Guys, please refrain from name calling. it does'nt help to promote sensible and professional discussion as this will only foment hatred and hostilities that can corrupt our respective motive in making opinions out of any issue in a topic. Use your wisdom in your rebuttal. Few of us in this forum were already members for quite a considerable period of time who deserved respect, and some also has just been recently welcomed as a novice. A professional debater will not link, describe, accuse his/her opponent as somebody undesirable without any legitimate proof such as being a communist, rebel or NPA or any disgusting description that may lead to temper tantrums. This does'nt help to prove a point in a decent topic discussion. It will only show lack of self esteem and weakness in the ability to prove a point thus resorting to childish comments. For and in behalf of PDFF as Associate Moderator, I am fully confident that this reminder is clearly understood and promote harmony among us for a professional and constructive swapping of ideas pertaining to a certain topic or issue. Thank you and happy posting. TOPP
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


Samir_Duran	Feb 1 2011, 07:21 AM Post #16
THE GHOST Posts: 1,276 Group: Regulars Member #6,179 Joined: January 12, 2011	Thanks for the reminders TOPP. People should understand how ENGLISH is used. Most , if not all, understands English in the Filipino way of thinking. There is too much FILIPINISMS that when you communicate with English speakers you are not fully understood. Examples are: FLY OVER - there is no such term in English as that. It is OVERPASS. Another one: AVAIL - As in "You can avail of our promotions" comparing to Americans saying this: "You can take advantage of our promotions". There are a lot of us using terms that are not understandable. That is why we are having problems when we try to convey our ideas. Instead of being emotional, take it as a teaching moment. I may be new here but that doesn't mean that I'm still in a low level. Another thing that we Filipinos are fond of. And that is level gaps. We tend to always point out seniority over what can an individual do to help. I don't care if you have been here since ancient times as long as the word RESPECT is there. You could have asked why I posted that one person "sounds like" a commie to me. But it doesn't mean that it is an accusation or a tag or name calling or whatever you think of it. I have heard those comments a lot of times whether it may be coming from a foreign commie or domestic. Now, for all those that got offended about my postings I do apologize but make sure the next time that before you ram a personal comment do it on PM's and not on general viewings of others like this one. For those who know me, keep it confidential and professional. For those who accuse me of being a POSER, do you have proofs? or are you just relying on others word of mouth, that is gossips? Again, thanks for the reminders. I will do my best to emulate respect if others will respect me as well. Let me tell you my idea again about the issue here. Let's use an analogy to be better understood. Take for example of a laptop manufactured by HP. The laptop has a warranty of one year.Meaning if there are factory defects it can be replaced free of charge. But it doesn't mean that in normal use if it gets broken it is the fault still of HP. Same thing with PMA, they make sure that all of their cadets get the best training and discipline to be a good leader. Very idealistic as you can describe it. I know this because I have a lot of superiors that are Ayers. I even talked to them about their lives. How is it to be in the Academy. How is it to bear the burdens of a leader. These gentlemen are highly respectable.They have a lot of ideas how to straighten up the wrongs of their superiors. However, no matter how they tried it,it is still in vain. The problem is within the AFP higher echelon. Of course, you cannot say NO to those guys on the top or else you will end up somewhere else. As what the saying goes: "Do what I say, do not do what I do". But eventually, the more my officers are immersed to this kind of "KATARANTADUHAN AT KAGAGUHAN" they too learn the tricks of the trade. It becomes like a trojan virus that embedded itself to the system until an event will trigger it's demonic destruction. They become callous to what is going on. The point is that the problem is not in the Academy but it is in the AFP. As what my analogy says, it is not the problem of HP but rather the problem of the user.They are the ones who put those viruses in the system and not the manufacturer. Now get my point?



Frenzy	Feb 1 2011, 08:20 AM Post #17
Member Posts: 1,251 Group: Regulars Member #78 Joined: August 11, 2004	TagaLaguna Jan 31 2011, 04:42 PM LOL!!!! Do you think that by closing this institution that it will solve the corruption? Where is the logic on this? Come on, man! You do not even know how these applicants go through before they get admitted to the Academy. Do you understand what "it sounds like" means? Onion skin What do you mean by "how these applicants go through before they get admitted to the Academy"? How are these significant to their conduct when they become senior officers?



Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Feb 1 2011, 08:33 AM Post #18
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	For a common sense to work, it does'nt need a litany of words. This is my professional and personal perception of things. If I have done my reminder for all to see, it is purposely conceived as a reminder to all. As a lawyer I know what corners sensitive things are to be placed. Here, we are dealing with an open discussion so, corrective measures are done on the spot for all to see as a moderator except things or circumstances that needs privacy that I will resort to sending private messages.
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


Bat21	Feb 1 2011, 11:09 AM Post #19
Trainee Posts: 83 Group: Regulars Member #418 Joined: March 30, 2005	didu Jan 30 2011, 06:54 AM saddening really, and disappointing too. I really looked up to PMAers as honest, upright men, knights in shining armor but now no more. there are just too many rotten alumni for me to conclude that the PMA mistah clique is doing this country more harm than good. Indeed, the PMA Honor Code. To some they kept it for life, to others for only four years.



horizon	Feb 1 2011, 11:15 AM Post #20
Member Posts: 438 Group: Regulars Member #5,945 Joined: June 24, 2010	courage to resist material temptations integrity, truthfulness & honesty throughout their career and beyond loyalty to country and people, not to enrich themselves through unlawfal means



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