The PMA Mafia within the AFP and PNP

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The PMA Mafia within the AFP and PNP
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 29 2011, 08:07 PM (7,146 Views)
caterwaul	Jan 29 2011, 08:07 PM Post #1
Member Posts: 384 Group: Regulars Member #51 Joined: July 30, 2004	Haven’t you noticed that all military and police generals accused of corruption, past and present, all graduated from the Philippine Military Academy (PMA)? It seems the PMA—whose motto is “courage, integrity, loyalty”—should exclude “integrity” in its motto since many of its graduates don’t have it. * * * Only PMA graduates become AFP chief of staff or chief of the PNP. Name me one graduate of the Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) who has become AFP chief of staff or PNP chief since the time of President Cory Aquino. The AFP chief of staff or the PNP chief chooses “PMAyers” as members of his immediate staff—including officers who hold the purse strings—to succeed him. That’s because of the so-called “PMA Mafia” that operates within the AFP and the PNP. The PMA is a brotherhood, and if you’re a non-PMAyer you’re out of the loop and don’t have a chance to reach the highest post. President Noy should give equal opportunity to non-PMAyers in the AFP or PNP, those who came from the ranks or graduates of ROTC, to become AFP or PNP chief. I know many ROTC graduates who are as competent as—or better than—PMAyers. If the President wants to break up the PMA Mafia, the cause of demoralization and corruption within the military and police organizations, he should appoint reserve officers to key positions that will give them a crack at the highest post in the AFP and PNP. Non-PMAyers greatly outnumber the PMAyers in the military or police service. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...he-AFP-and--PNP tama si Tulfo, PMA is not doing this country any good, its graduates are a disgrace, nothing but opportunists and thieves!



Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jan 30 2011, 05:02 AM Post #2
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	caterwaul Jan 29 2011, 08:07 PM Haven’t you noticed that all military and police generals accused of corruption, past and present, all graduated from the Philippine Military Academy (PMA)? It seems the PMA—whose motto is “courage, integrity, loyalty”—should exclude “integrity” in its motto since many of its graduates don’t have it. * * * Only PMA graduates become AFP chief of staff or chief of the PNP. Name me one graduate of the Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) who has become AFP chief of staff or PNP chief since the time of President Cory Aquino. The AFP chief of staff or the PNP chief chooses “PMAyers” as members of his immediate staff—including officers who hold the purse strings—to succeed him. That’s because of the so-called “PMA Mafia” that operates within the AFP and the PNP. The PMA is a brotherhood, and if you’re a non-PMAyer you’re out of the loop and don’t have a chance to reach the highest post. President Noy should give equal opportunity to non-PMAyers in the AFP or PNP, those who came from the ranks or graduates of ROTC, to become AFP or PNP chief. I know many ROTC graduates who are as competent as—or better than—PMAyers. If the President wants to break up the PMA Mafia, the cause of demoralization and corruption within the military and police organizations, he should appoint reserve officers to key positions that will give them a crack at the highest post in the AFP and PNP. Non-PMAyers greatly outnumber the PMAyers in the military or police service. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...he-AFP-and--PNP tama si Tulfo, PMA is not doing this country any good, its graduates are a disgrace, nothing but opportunists and thieves! These facts are indisputable. it is as real and true as the fact that the sun rises on east and set on the west.
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


didu	Jan 30 2011, 06:54 AM Post #3
Member Posts: 1,068 Group: Regulars Member #117 Joined: September 7, 2004	saddening really, and disappointing too. I really looked up to PMAers as honest, upright men, knights in shining armor but now no more. there are just too many rotten alumni for me to conclude that the PMA mistah clique is doing this country more harm than good.



horizon	Jan 30 2011, 09:53 AM Post #4
Member Posts: 438 Group: Regulars Member #5,945 Joined: June 24, 2010	Quote: It seems the PMA—whose motto is “courage, integrity, loyalty”—should exclude “integrity” in its motto since many of its graduates don’t have it. so true



Samir_Duran	Jan 30 2011, 03:26 PM Post #5
THE GHOST Posts: 1,276 Group: Regulars Member #6,179 Joined: January 12, 2011	Let me speak my mind on this matter. You cannot blame the school if it's graduates did not uphold it's tradition to another institution. The Philippine Military Academy is basically a SCHOOL. The Armed Forces of the Philippines is basically an ORGANIZATION. There is individuality to this entities though they are of the same family. It's like PMA is the mother and AFP is the son. Magkaibang tao pero parehong pamilya. Kasalanan ba ni nanay na naging kriminal si anak? It is the choice of the anak to be like that. Ginawa ni nanay ang makakaya nya para lumaking responsable at matinung tao si anak. Ang problema ngayon ay nasa loob ng AFP at wala sa PMA. Ang kultura na ipinapairal sa PMA ay maganda at idealistic. Samantalang ang kultura sa AFP ay puno ng katarantaduhan at kagaguhan. In short, FULL OF CORRUPTION. Ngayon, masasabi nyo bang kasalanan ng magulang kung bakit naging GAGO ang anak samantalang ang disiplina at pagaaruga ay sapat at kumpleto? The PMA is doing good in training and disciplining the future leaders of this nation. It is now up to the graduate to continue the culture to wherever he will go. Hindi nagkulang ang institusyong ito. Ang problema ay nasa tao na mismo. We should not GENERALIZE everything because of the mistake of a few. Kayo rin, gusto nyo ba na ikabit sa inyo ang kasalanan ng kapamilya nyo na para bang ikaw mismo ang gumawa sa mali?



Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jan 30 2011, 08:59 PM Post #6
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	The PMA was not being blamed for it's rotten products. It is only pointed out that mostly if not all the Generals who were involved in the exposed AFP corruption were products of the PMA. While it is true that it is only an institution and has nothing to do with what it's individual products behave or have done wrong during their stint in the AFP, it is still naturally and morally accountable for the integrity of it's products so that it can continue to use integrity in the PMA's motto. The word INTEGRITY in it's motto, does'nt denote the integrity of the cadets still undergoing their training course. It is a brand to describe the cadets after graduating from the academy and were already in the AFP service to prove their integrity of which the academy purportedly stand for.
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


Samir_Duran	Jan 31 2011, 05:51 AM Post #7
THE GHOST Posts: 1,276 Group: Regulars Member #6,179 Joined: January 12, 2011	How will you measure INTEGRITY then if that is the case? Measure in the sense that while the cadet is still in the PMA. How will the institution guarantee that it's products are good QUALITY pagkalabas/graduate? Gusto nyo makialam ang school sa affairs ng AFP officer corps? to what extent? Kung baga gusto nyo makialam na rin ang mga schools sa katarantaduhan ng mga graduates nito in GENERAL? "PMA is not doing this country any good, its graduates are a disgrace, nothing but opportunists and thieves!" I don't get all your points here. Ano ba talaga? PMA o ang AFP/PNP officer corps ang dapat ayusin?



Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jan 31 2011, 07:12 AM Post #8
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	TagaLaguna Jan 31 2011, 05:51 AM How will you measure INTEGRITY then if that is the case? Measure in the sense that while the cadet is still in the PMA. How will the institution guarantee that it's products are good QUALITY pagkalabas/graduate? Gusto nyo makialam ang school sa affairs ng AFP officer corps? to what extent? Kung baga gusto nyo makialam na rin ang mga schools sa katarantaduhan ng mga graduates nito in GENERAL? "PMA is not doing this country any good, its graduates are a disgrace, nothing but opportunists and thieves!" I don't get all your points here. Ano ba talaga? PMA o ang AFP/PNP officer corps ang dapat ayusin? Integrity cannot be measured because it's highly visible. The PMA is a conduit to the AFP because the PMA is run by the AFP. The Academy's credibility and integrity can only be restored in tandem with the the AFP. So, It necessitates for the AFP to be reformed first before we can expect a highly respectable Military Academy. Simple equation.
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


caterwaul	Jan 31 2011, 07:43 AM Post #9
Member Posts: 384 Group: Regulars Member #51 Joined: July 30, 2004	what the cadets are looking up to right now are the senior cavaliers who have gotten mind blowing riches integrity is just a word to them now, useless and worthless - Reyes, Garcia, Rabusa, Villanueva et al just proved it to them id say close the PMA or make the cadets pay tuition we taxpayers should not give these future plunderers a free ride



Samir_Duran	Jan 31 2011, 09:07 AM Post #10
THE GHOST Posts: 1,276 Group: Regulars Member #6,179 Joined: January 12, 2011	caterwaul Jan 31 2011, 07:43 AM what the cadets are looking up to right now are the senior cavaliers who have gotten mind blowing riches integrity is just a word to them now, useless and worthless - Reyes, Garcia, Rabusa, Villanueva et al just proved it to them id say close the PMA or make the cadets pay tuition we taxpayers should not give these future plunderers a free ride Sounds like an opinion of a member of CPP-NPA-NDF/partylist rep to me. Or an "aktibista".



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