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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 23 2009, 04:32 AM (2,680 Views) | |
| Vermonter | Oct 23 2009, 04:32 AM Post #1 |
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Do you guys think that the PN should retire its old antiquated frigate and corvettes? Woulnd'nt the money maintaining these vessels be better invested in the newer and faster patrol vessels and hopefully a future large patrol ship? |
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| MSantor | Oct 23 2009, 05:37 AM Post #2 |
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The PN has no "Frigates". Only the Destroyer Escort BRP Rajah Humabon, as well as the few classes of Corvettes (The Peacock, Cyclone/General Alvarez classes, etc.), as well as the various other support and amphibious vessels in its fleet. Frigates (FF or FFG if it has guided missiles) as well as Destroyers (DD or DDG- usually bigger than Frigates), Destroyer Escorts(DE), and OPVs - while similar to the layman- are all different warship types in naval parlance. |
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| City Hunter | Oct 23 2009, 11:49 AM Post #3 |
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Nope. Dapat i-deploy sa Somalia with all our politicians and their lackeys as crew. They should serve there as part of their service to the Filipino people. Para malaman nila gaano kahirap maging mahirap at wala silang choice na tumakas papunta sa lupa doon as we will not pay for their ransom anyway not unless they corrupt the Somalians even further and be part of the pirate gang - okay lang yun that way matanggalan na sila ng Filipino citizenship and maging open game na for anyone. If they can make a positive contribution there bago lang pauuwiin. That way rin ma-realize nila ang need to modernize our existing assets and not just line their pockets. Kapag nilamon sila ng dagat then good riddance. Pero tama si Sir MSantor. Wala talaga tayong Frigate class. Kuno lang yun. Kapag naahon na yun Musashi then we can have an instant battleship kahit pang display lang for tourist attraction. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| truegrit | Oct 24 2009, 04:31 AM Post #4 |
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I suggest that they should be converted to FLOATING MUSEUM and docked near CCP... Wonder what Mothballed frigate that will be converted> In US, mothballed Battleships were converted to floating museum then why not we follow and generate funds for local and foreign tourists |
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| MSantor | Oct 24 2009, 04:55 AM Post #5 |
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Cityhunter, Japan will never allow one of its wargraves to be turned into a museum unless it gives its permission. It has to take into account the families of those sailors lost on HIJMS Musashi. Gritpaladin, What "mothballed frigate" are you talking about? Di ko ba sinabi na walang "Frigate" yung PN? Or did you mean the Destroyer Escort BRP Rajah Humabon as being converted to a future museum? |
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| City Hunter | Oct 24 2009, 08:08 AM Post #6 |
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Hmmm. But hindi ba ayon doon sa isang post dito that some Japanese investors are willing to shell out funds that the Musashi be raised and made as some kind of tourist attraction? As for their sensibilities to such being done I opine that it would indeed depend upon who will be doing it. From what I know Korea and China doesn't give a damn what they do with Japanese things which cannot be said the same for us. I've met old people who really can never forgive what the Japanese have done yet look at what our present generation's opinion of them. Curious tuloy ako what happened to Raja Humabon's sisters'. Yun na lang unahin muna gawin mga floating museums. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| City Hunter | Oct 24 2009, 08:41 AM Post #7 |
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But agree ako indeed that our old warhorses be displayed. Mas maganda kung ipa-sponsor pa ang mga ito just like what we do with our endangered species - politicians okay lang ubusin sila though to extinction. Would be nice to see our vessels in tip top shape and mapag-aralan ang history. To let people know the price rin of war para hindi na mag-isip. From what I see nowadays ang mga tao immune na sa mga effects ng such until it happens to them. Just like what happened sa Luzon from Ondoy and Pepeng and those bombings and holdups even in broad daylight. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| Vermonter | Oct 25 2009, 06:08 AM Post #8 |
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Please read the topic...... "FRIGATE....."
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| Redj | Oct 25 2009, 10:10 AM Post #9 |
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Guys, let's clear up some air. As of press time, we don't have a real Frigate. Our last Frigate are the Bonifacio Class Ships (PF7, PF10, PF12 & PF-14). Technically they are called WHEC (Weather High Endurance Cutter) but designated by PN as PF (Patrol Frigate). BRP Quezon and BRP Rizal are tweeners being a Frigate and being a Minesweeper but are coined by PN as Patrol Ships. Source - my father is a retired PN (w/ rank of CPO), assignments Sonarman PS31, POIC OF3 Naval Defense Forces, POIC MRG Philipping Fleet. Link below describes the PN naming convention which is clearly written on my father's notes when he was a Trainee (Basic Seaman Course 1969). http://www.dlsu.edu.ph/offices/sps/rotc/pd...mingPNships.pdf :thumb: |
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| tirad | Oct 26 2009, 08:31 AM Post #10 |
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Thanks for the informative link to the PN's naming convention. |
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Please read the topic...... "FRIGATE....."

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