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| The PhilAF does not need LIFT aircraft | |
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| Vermonter | Sep 13 2009, 01:09 AM Post #1 |
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The PhilAF does not need to purchase Lead in Fighter Trainers. The Augusta S211 is one and is more than qualified. More funds should be given to bring back the other grounded S211 back into service. Save the money for real fighter aicraft. |
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| City Hunter | Sep 13 2009, 07:29 AM Post #2 |
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In a way, I agree but the current S211s should be upgraded to incorporate the latest additions found in more modern trainers. Considering that our "most" latest fighter was the F5 current technology already made major leaps thus when (hopefully not if) we do get fighters there will be a major difference from what was last handled. We should also invest in simulators to better break in students. Although I for one would still go for my original idea of investing heavily on simulators then on 2-seat fighters to train our aviators (not pilots). |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| pachador | Sep 13 2009, 03:10 PM Post #3 |
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The Philippine air lines and other airlines regularly raid the philippine air force for pilots. why doesn't the philippine govt pass a bill requiring the philippine airlines to subsidize the training and purchase of simulators and trainers for the philippine air force ? Its about time the philippine air lines stop acting like a parasite and siphoning off air force pilots trained with Filipino taxpayers money. |
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| City Hunter | Sep 13 2009, 09:41 PM Post #4 |
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I don't believe they "raid" the PAF for pilots. They get the pilots who have finished their mandatory service after being trained by PAF. If we can offer our aviators incentive at least half of what our useless parasites in Congress and Executive office have then we wouldn't need worry about such an issue. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| pachador | Sep 14 2009, 04:30 AM Post #5 |
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sure they do. in addition to PAF pilots waiting for their mandatory service to finish before they go to PAL, there are PAF pilots who try to get out before their mandatory service even finishes. in both cases, this is due to the lure of higher salary, and who wouldn't ? If i was the PAF pilot, i would. Rather , than increase the air force salaries which would result in the retention of old pilots whose brain and reflexes will be slower in air combat, its better to for pilots to have a higher turnover rate so they leave while still young. however, PAL is still getting off on free basic training. Consider, if we had no air force, then the PAF would be forced to shoulder basic training cost of their pilots, so its about time that the commercial airlines including PAL help shoulder the basic training costs of air force pilots specially because we are the 3rd world country. |
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| maverick | Sep 14 2009, 10:39 PM Post #6 |
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yes you are right,we do not need a LIFT thats just a waste of money,we should just repair those S-211 that are rusting right now or just buy a flight simulator or something |
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| PilotoRico | Sep 15 2009, 02:19 AM Post #7 |
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Is there any chance that PAF could obtain some S.211 from Singapore? They are now replaced by Pilatus PC-21, and soon might be available for Philippines Air Force :thumb: Saludos. PilotoRico |
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| C.C. | Sep 15 2009, 05:41 AM Post #8 |
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For me, I still believe that we need those LIFTs. Like the YAK-130, M346 or AT-50. Not only that they can be used solely in training, but we can also use them in patrolling our maritime boundaries. We can even use them in COIN operations as a ground attack aircraft and air support for our boys and girls fighting at the ground. About sa PAL, hindi kaya tumaas ang pasahe natin sa mga eroplano pag isinakatuparan yan? ![]() Back to the training of our aviators, diba pwede din naman nating ipadala sila sa ibang bansa para doon magsanay? Ganun din kasi ang ginagawa ng ibang mga bansa. Pwede naman yun diba?
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| maverick | Sep 15 2009, 10:38 PM Post #9 |
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we can use MRFs for patrolling,COIN and other stuff.well like you said c.c. pwede nman nting ipadala ang ating mga piloto sa ibang bansa para magsanay,so its just going to be a waste of money just spend those money in advance MRF |
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| PilotoRico | Sep 15 2009, 11:11 PM Post #10 |
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Keep the S.211's, bring back to airworthy the remaining aircraft and add four to six former RSingAF aircraft to have a flightline of twelve...... Use the momey for other much needed aircraft (helicopters. MPA aircraft, COIN etc....) Saludos
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