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Russian Navy facing"irreversible collapse"?
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Topic Started: Jul 19 2009, 12:07 PM (547 Views)
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MSantor
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Jul 19 2009, 12:07 PM
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Just an update: Russia cuts 2 frigate programs.

http://jdw.janes.com
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IMDS 2009: Russia cuts two frigate programmes
The Russian Federation Navy (RFN) has abandoned plans to acquire two still-incomplete frigates that have languished in a Kaliningrad shipyard since the 1990s, Jane's has learned. The Neustrashimy-class (Project 1154) frigate Tuman and the Grom-class (Project 1244.1) frigate Borodino will instead be offered for sale overseas
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From: http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jn...90703_1_n.shtmlThe Russian Federation Navy (RFN) has abandoned plans to acquire two still-incomplete frigates that have languished in a Kaliningrad shipyard since the 1990s, Jane's has learned. The Neustrashimy-class (Project 1154) frigate Tuman and the Grom-class (Project 1244.1) frigate Borodino will instead be offered for sale overseas. However, prospects for the equally long-awaited Gepard-class (Project 11661) frigate Dagestan , which was laid down at the Zelenodolsk Shipyard in Tatarstan in 1994, are more promising. The RFN is expected to commission the vessel in 2010 or 2011. Speaking to Jane's at the International Maritime Defence Show (IMDS) in St Petersburg on 24 June, a spokesman for Zelenodolsk said that Dagestan had remained incomplete for 15 years due to "financial problems". The light frigate - the second of a class built to a 1,930-ton (full load) design - would now be launched towards the end of 2009 or early in 2010 and commissioned a year or so later, he said.
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MSantor
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Jul 23 2009, 08:14 AM
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Seems the big bear may not have a navy if this keeps up.
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Russian Navy facing 'irreversible collapse' The Russian Navy is currently on the verge of 'irreversible collapse', according to a recent analysis published by the authoritative Moscow-based weekly - the Independent Military Review . The report, entitled 'BMF RF [Naval Military Fleet of the Russian Federation] on Foreign Warships', says the main cause for the 'collapse' is the state of the Russian shipbuilding industry, which is "incapable of producing warships in either the quantity or at the level of quality that their navy customer requires" for the future... [first posted to http://jdw.janes.com - 10 July 2009]
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MSantor
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Jul 26 2009, 05:00 AM
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A sign that their training is also deteriorating? At least no one was hurt in this latest incident.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090724/oddi...ccident_offbeat
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Russian warship accidently fires on apartment block
Fri Jul 24, 12:00 PM
VLADIVOSTOK, Russia (AFP) - A Russian warship preparing for a holiday celebration accidentally fired a dummy artillery shell into the courtyard of an apartment building here on Friday, officials said. Nobody was hurt but the shell's impact broke windows and left a small crater outside the nine-storey apartment building in Vladivostok, a port city on Russia's Pacific Ocean coast close to China and Japan.
"There were no explosives in the dummy shell," Roman Martov, a spokesman for Russia's Vladivostok-based Pacific Fleet, told AFP.
"The reasons why the rocket-assisted projectile flew a greater distance than it had been assigned are unknown," he added.
Local police said in a statement that the impact shattered the windows of several apartments and scattered fragments of rock and glass on nearby cars, but added that there were no injuries.
The warship that fired the shell was taking part in rehearsals for Sunday's planned celebrations of the annual Navy Day holiday, which traditionally include a ceremonial procession of warships and mock naval battles.
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Nov 30 2009, 03:03 AM
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A related article:
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Retired admiral says Russia losing its navyBy VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV (AP) – 2 days ago MOSCOW — Russia's once-mighty navy faces further dramatic decline after 2015, when most Soviet-built ships will have to be mothballed, a retired admiral was quoted as saying Friday.
The warning follows comments by Russian officials they were planning to buy a French amphibious assault warship able to carry at least a dozen helicopters or to land forces.
Russia currently has no big ship with the power to anchor off coast and deploy troops onto land. With the likely decommissioning of other aging warships, distant deployments would be impossible, Retired Adm. Vyacheslav Popov said in remarks carried by RIA Novosti news agency.
"If things remain as they are, we will have to mothball most ocean warships by 2015," Popov was quoted as saying. "That will sharply reduce the navy's capability," which he said was now five to six times less than Britain's or France's, and 20-30 times smaller than the U.S. Navy's.Popov and other retired military officers have described the Russian navy as being in a pitiful state — a sharp contrast to the Kremlin's attempts to flex military muscle abroad. Russia has sent warships to patrol pirate-infested waters off Somalia, and in 2008 dispatched a navy squadron to the Caribbean for joint maneuvers with the Venezuelan navy and for several port calls. But Popov, a former Northern Fleet chief who is now a member of parliament's upper house, warned that the navy would only be capable of acting near Russian shores after 2015. Only a handful of big surface ships, such as missile cruisers and destroyers, remain seaworthy, after Russia failed to commission new ships and properly maintain Soviet-built ones amid the post-Soviet economic meltdown in the 1990s. The flow of petrodollars in the 2000s failed to reverse the navy's fortunes. Popov said that, despite increased military budgets, the government has failed to allocate money for building new warships or even maintaining the old ones. In the last decade, the navy had commissioned only one relatively small surface warship, he said. Its single Soviet-built aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, is much smaller than U.S. aircraft carriers and has been plagued by mechanical problems and accidents.
Russia has been in talks with France about a possible purchase of a Mistral-class assault ship and building several others under license — a deal military leaders say will allow Russia to import new Western technologies and modernize its industries.
Russia's struggling shipbuilders oppose the purchase, arguing that instead of buying a French warship the government should invest in domestic production. A shipyard in Severodvinsk has tried for years to fulfill an order to modernize a Soviet-built aircraft carrier for India and sought to swell a contract price.Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Jan 6 2010, 12:46 PM
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Gheez! Look like the Russkies are heading out of job in the future..
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