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| RP defense against air attacks weak, says PAF | |
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| valiant | Jun 21 2010, 09:55 PM Post #51 |
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weak? how can a non-existent capability be weak?
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| MSantor | Jun 22 2010, 03:00 AM Post #52 |
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Wrong. The AFP still has some air defence capability in the form of 40mm AA guns operated by the Philippine Marine Corps: Philippine Marines' 40mm AA guns thread Furthermore, the PAF"s S211s can theoretically be used for air defence, though they will obviously more effective at intercepting hijacked civilian aircraft rather than going toe-to-toe with air incursions by neighbouring countries' MRFs. |
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| fatbat_mca | Jun 22 2010, 06:44 AM Post #53 |
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sir MSan, can these 40mm guns actually hit a fast-moving, high-flying MRF? |
oh my sofie!
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| MSantor | Jun 22 2010, 06:57 AM Post #54 |
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Of course not. These AA guns will be more effective against slower aircraft such as helicopters. |
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| udf21 | Jun 22 2010, 07:06 AM Post #55 |
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in short, when Chinese Mig-29s come knocking on our airspace, we're supposed to just wave at them from our Jet trainers and OV-10s? and eject gracefully before the AA-11 missile obliterates the tailpipe?
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| Tormentor | Jun 22 2010, 07:38 AM Post #56 |
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The 40mm AA guns are not for external defense my friends, if you get the drift.
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![]() It's a bird, it's a plane...no...it's Super Trillanes! | |
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| MSantor | Jun 22 2010, 08:21 AM Post #57 |
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Ufd21, Correction. The Chinese have Su27s (they call them J11s) and their homemade J10s, not MiG29s. Of the Philippines' neighbours, only Malaysia has MiG29s, though they are phasing them out, IIRC. And the Royal Malaysian Air Force has F18s as well as Su30s. More details about other potential adversaries for the RP are posted at the China, Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia threads of the World Military News and Issues section. |
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"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." - Henry Ford "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking"- Gen. George S. Patton | |
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| Holler | Jun 22 2010, 08:54 PM Post #58 |
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But still a double-edged sword.
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![]() Ako ay Pilipino Buong katapatang nanunumpa Sa watawat ng Pilipinas At sa bansang kanyang sinasagisag Na may dangal, katarungan at kalayaan Na pinakikilos ng sambayanang Maka-Diyos Maka-tao Makakalikasan at Makabansa. | |
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| truegrit | Jun 23 2010, 04:41 AM Post #59 |
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Hope that PAF will tap the technical expertise of our Universities to further improve its capability on AirDefense.... like coming up with a Radar-guided Fire Control systems for either AA guns or Missle platform... Also should come up with a ECM jamming systems too... |
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| al'Lan Mandragoran | Jun 23 2010, 07:24 AM Post #60 |
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^ Agree. Explore the possibility of developing a lowcost equivalent to Norway's Advanced Surface to Air Missile System :
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"In wars, boy, fools kill other fools for foolish causes." "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Robert Jordan; The Wheel of Time | |
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