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RP defense against air attacks weak, says PAF
Topic Started: Jun 20 2009, 02:46 AM (6,387 Views)
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Jun 20 2009, 03:03 AM

3. the funds for the modernization of the entire AFP has gone not to its intended purpose but only for the personal gain of several government and military people (no need for proof about this. just take a look at how many government and military officials of the Philippines, the only mostly Christian nation in Asia but, ironically, also its most corrupt, live lavish lifestyles amidst the grinding poverty that exists within the rest of the country).


That is what they called Creative Funding. :armyLol:

As long our selfish and greedy honorable goverment official never sincerely make up their minds to source a continous supply for our ARMS Funding, then AFP will always be :bs: in the region when it comes to capabilities blah, blah, blah..


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Hindi ba may online chat or something itong mga politico trash? May nakapagtanong na ba sa kanila with regards to the discussions here?
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I think the Phil Air Force should buy the Russian built 9K22 Tunguska M1 SA-19 Grison.. So PAF will have powerful Air Defense Anti-Aicraft Missile System.
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Hmmmnn.. You may have a point there Ma'am Valdore, But I prefer these kind of Air Defense Missile Systems.. look at these Pictures! And please tell me are they Cool enough for you to have seconds thoughts... :specool:
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ADATS is a low-level short range air defence (SHORAD) system, capable of engaging both air and surface targets. It was manufactured by Oerlikon Contraves based in Zurich, Switzerland, now part of Rheinmetall Defence, and Oerlikon Aerospace in Quebec, which is now Rheinmetall Canada. The ADATS Missile System can be mounted on a variety of mobile platforms, such as the M113

In September 2005, the Canadian Forces announced the design and development of 33 Multi-Mission Effects Vehicles (MMEV), to be based on ADATS. The MMEV would combine anti-tank and air-defence capabilities on one platform and be able to engage ground targets such as armoured vehicles and bunkers, as well as aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles. The vehicle was to be developed by the Canadian Forces with Rheinmetall Canada and Defence R&D Canada.

The MMEV was to be based on the existing ADATS turrets mounted on a General Dynamics Land Systems 8x8 LAV III vehicle, in service with the Canadian Army since 2001. As well as the ADATS missile, the MMEV would be able to fire a long-range anti-armour missile and a non-line-of-sight missile.

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The ADATS network coordinates the fire power of up to six ADATS spaced at distances up to 20km. Any ADATS can be the network master controller and the network can link with other command facilities in real time.

"For the Canadian CFLLADS, ADATS is mounted on the M113 armoured vehicle."Fully automatic real-time data exchange includes airspace control data, weapon control orders and fire control orders, target identification data, individual system status and vehicle position, threat prioritisation and optimised weapon allocation, engagement status, weapon status and jammer triangulation data.

The six-unit network can engage up to 48 air or ground targets.

The links use frequency-agile radios or landline. Over 2,000 frequencies with 25kHz channel spacing are used in the frequency agile radio link. The system architecture provides full duplex data exchange and simultaneous half duplex voice communications.

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The ADATS electro-optical systems for target tracking and missile guidance are supplied by Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control and are based on an enhanced performance version of the Apache helicopter TADS/PNVS.

The Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR), based on the US common module and operating in the eight to twelve micron band, provides full operational capability in adverse weather. Other systems include a near infra-red vidicon television for day use, a carbon dioxide laser for missile guidance and a Neodinium YaG laser rangefinder operating at 1.06 microns.

The ADATS pulse doppler X-band dual-beam radar is used for target acquisition and identification and allows ADATS to operate autonomously. The radar is frequency agile and fully coherent. The ADATS radar can also assign targets to other ADATS in a command, control and communications network with their radars in silent mode.

"The ADATS missile system has a 10km range against air or ground targets."The capability of the radar to operate in track-while-scan mode and the 20-target computer-aided threat evaluation in netted configuration, assist the operator in weapon allocation to highest priority threats. The system also has search-on-the move and sector search programming. Range is 25km to an altitude of 8,600m.

Initial target detection to missile launch takes less than five seconds. The engagement sequence begins with target detection and turret slew using radar, FLIR and television systems against air targets and FLIR and television against ground targets. The tracker search and target acquisition sequence is carried out using the FLIR and the television sighting system.

Missile launch and guidance uses FLIR and television target tracking and carbon dioxide laser beam riding missile guidance. The time required to launch a second missile following completion of the first engagement is less than two seconds.

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Now please tell me If this is the coolest Air Defense System ever.. Valdore Ma'am..
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Wow! Nice Russian 9K22 Tunguska M1 SA19 Grison!. How about this group of Air Defense Missiles System.

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SL-AMRAAM
The SL-AMRAAM launcher mounts six AMRAAM missiles on a turreted High-Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV). The launcher provides 360° coverage. The launcher is pointed towards its assigned sector or area of responsibility and the missile is launched towards the direction of the target. The launch angle can be up to 70° off the direction to the incoming target threat without reduction of intercept and kill probability.

In June 2007, Raytheon announced the development of additional capabilities for SL-AMRAAM: the SL-AMRAAM ER missile, which will have a range of about 40km, and the capacity to launch Raytheon AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles, which have a range of 10km.

The Boeing integrated fire control station provides Battle Management Command, Control, Computers, Communications and Intelligence (BMC4I). The IFCS uses data from air defence sensors including the Sentinel radar and the future Joint Land-Attack Cruise Missile Elevated Netted Sensor (JLENS).

"In trials the CLAWS system demonstrated intercept ranges of over 15km."The United States Army uses the Raytheon AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel Enhanced Target Range and Classification (ETRAC) radar to carry out the surveillance and target search, acquisition, identification and tracking functions. The electronically scanned 3D phased array radar uses range gate pulse Doppler operation at X band. Sentinel uses a high scan rate at 30rpm. The range is 75km.

JLENS consists of a large aerostat connected via tether to a ground-based processing station with a long-range surveillance radar and a fire control radar. It can operate at altitudes up to 15,000 ft to provide over-the-horizon surveillance for defence against cruise missiles. In November 2005, Raytheon was awarded a US Army contract for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), to be completed by 2011.


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Dec 10 2009, 04:48 PM
Wow! Nice Russian 9K22 Tunguska M1 SA19 Grison!. How about this group of Air Defense Missiles System.

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SL-AMRAAM
The SL-AMRAAM launcher mounts six AMRAAM missiles on a turreted High-Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV). The launcher provides 360° coverage. The launcher is pointed towards its assigned sector or area of responsibility and the missile is launched towards the direction of the target. The launch angle can be up to 70° off the direction to the incoming target threat without reduction of intercept and kill probability.

In June 2007, Raytheon announced the development of additional capabilities for SL-AMRAAM: the SL-AMRAAM ER missile, which will have a range of about 40km, and the capacity to launch Raytheon AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles, which have a range of 10km.

The Boeing integrated fire control station provides Battle Management Command, Control, Computers, Communications and Intelligence (BMC4I). The IFCS uses data from air defence sensors including the Sentinel radar and the future Joint Land-Attack Cruise Missile Elevated Netted Sensor (JLENS).

"In trials the CLAWS system demonstrated intercept ranges of over 15km."The United States Army uses the Raytheon AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel Enhanced Target Range and Classification (ETRAC) radar to carry out the surveillance and target search, acquisition, identification and tracking functions. The electronically scanned 3D phased array radar uses range gate pulse Doppler operation at X band. Sentinel uses a high scan rate at 30rpm. The range is 75km.

JLENS consists of a large aerostat connected via tether to a ground-based processing station with a long-range surveillance radar and a fire control radar. It can operate at altitudes up to 15,000 ft to provide over-the-horizon surveillance for defence against cruise missiles. In November 2005, Raytheon was awarded a US Army contract for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), to be completed by 2011.

This type of Air defence system is good enough, but, we still need MRFs radars as front liners
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Wow! Nice Russian 9K22 Tunguska M1 SA19 Grison!. How about this group of Air Defense Missiles System.

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SL-AMRAAM
The SL-AMRAAM launcher mounts six AMRAAM missiles on a turreted High-Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV). The launcher provides 360° coverage. The launcher is pointed towards its assigned sector or area of responsibility and the missile is launched towards the direction of the target. The launch angle can be up to 70° off the direction to the incoming target threat without reduction of intercept and kill probability.

In June 2007, Raytheon announced the development of additional capabilities for SL-AMRAAM: the SL-AMRAAM ER missile, which will have a range of about 40km, and the capacity to launch Raytheon AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles, which have a range of 10km.

The Boeing integrated fire control station provides Battle Management Command, Control, Computers, Communications and Intelligence (BMC4I). The IFCS uses data from air defence sensors including the Sentinel radar and the future Joint Land-Attack Cruise Missile Elevated Netted Sensor (JLENS).

"In trials the CLAWS system demonstrated intercept ranges of over 15km."The United States Army uses the Raytheon AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel Enhanced Target Range and Classification (ETRAC) radar to carry out the surveillance and target search, acquisition, identification and tracking functions. The electronically scanned 3D phased array radar uses range gate pulse Doppler operation at X band. Sentinel uses a high scan rate at 30rpm. The range is 75km.

JLENS consists of a large aerostat connected via tether to a ground-based processing station with a long-range surveillance radar and a fire control radar. It can operate at altitudes up to 15,000 ft to provide over-the-horizon surveillance for defence against cruise missiles. In November 2005, Raytheon was awarded a US Army contract for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), to be completed by 2011.

Price? Maintennance cost?

If it is more cost-effective to maintain mobile SAM-platforms, then the PAF should focus first on that.
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We just get and buy the 9K22 Tunguska... :armycool:
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This 9K22 SA-19M1 Tunguska Anti-Aircraft and Air Defense Tracked Tank!?..

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Nice choice!.. :thumb:
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