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Replacement for N22 Nomad
Topic Started: Apr 22 2005, 01:23 PM (7,340 Views)
Zero wing
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ya sorry i got one Cessna 337 Skymaster
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all we can do is hazard a guess or offer our suggestion but we really don't now what the PAF will ultimately get.
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Jul 17 2008, 11:04 PM
Time to revive interest in the M28 Skytruck/Bryza, which is in the class of the Nomad and could maybe do double duty as patrol and light transport. And in the grand tradition of the AFP buying American, the Polish manufacturer, PZL Mielec, is now 100% owned by Sikorsky so that would probably help swing it.

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:thumb: , Not bad, Since it's already owned by an US Company Sikorsky
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If a cargo ramp is not required. The PAF can also look at ATR 42. Cebu Pacific operates it's bigger brother the ATR 72. Super reliable, very inexpensive to operate, and maintenance could actually be outsourced to Cebu Pacifics MRO.

http://www.atraircraft.com/public/atr/html...cts.php?aid=508

If used primarily as freighters, then converted airplanes would cost even less and the PAF could buy it's bigger brother the ATR 72.

http://www.deagel.com/Turboprop-Airliners/...a000090001.aspx

http://www.atraircraft.com/public/atr/html...d=519&pid=30414

Just another candidate for AFP needs.
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raider1011


Old news, but still ...

AFSOC to get first 10 Skytrucks

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By Michael Hoffman - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Feb 16, 2009 15:31:15 EST

Air Force Special Operations Command will receive its first of 10 M-28 Skytrucks — a light cargo and passenger plane — in June.

The Skytruck will shuttle small groups of special operators to areas with unimproved landing strips, said Col. JD Clem, deputy director of plans, programs, requirements and assessments for AFSOC. It will be based at Cannon Air Force Base, N.M., like AFSOC’s other non-standard aviation assets including the PC-12 Pilatus, he said.

“If I need to carry six guys some place, I don’t want to have to send a C-130,” Clem said. “But, if I want six guys to land on an unimproved strip the PC-12 is not the plane to use.”

AFSOC plans to receive the Skytrucks over the next couple years, he said. A twin engine high-wing strutted monoplane, the Skytruck can carry 19 people in the back with a maximum take-off and landing weight on 16,534 pounds and a maximum cruise speed of 223 knots, according to Skytruck Company’s Web site.

What it won’t carry is any intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance sensors, Clem said.

“The non-standard aviation is simply to haul people around. There is nothing really cosmic about it at all,” he said.

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The Fokker 60UTA-N, also known as the Fokker F.27-0603 was developed out of the Fokker F.27 Mk 050 short before Fokker collapsed due to the financial problems. The Fokker 60 is a military version of the Fokker 50, with lengthened fuselage, a large cargo door in the right forward fuselage and APU. The Fokker 60 flew first on 2 November 1995. Only 4 were built and put in service with the RNethAF. In 2005 two Fokker 60UTA-Ns, including the U-3, have been converted to Fokker 60MPA. The Fokker 60MPAs are detached at Hato, replacing the P-3Cs of the Navy.

Aviationweb déjà vu

When the Royal Netherlands Air Force decided to buy two extra C-130's the Fokker F60's were phased out. The last flight of a 'normal' Fokker 60 was made in November 2006. Currently they are stored at Woensdrecht airbase and are up for sale.

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As late as December 2008 all four Fokker 60s were still being talked about as available for sale on another messageboard ('sensya po, mods).

Natignan na ba ito ng PAF? Lalo na ngayon post-Ondoy at iisa lang ang ating C-130. :armyneutral:

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Fokker’s problems stemmed from a number of factors.  These included a decline in demand for aircraft which resulted in expensive overcapacity at Fokker, a decrease in achievable aircraft prices due to market conditions of low demand and high supply, and high finance charges resulting from previous reorganizations of the company.  Added to these factors was a 25 percent drop in the value of the US dollar compared to the Dutch guilder.  Since several components of Fokker aircraft were produced in Germany, the strength of the Deutsche mark against the dollar had also been a factor.  The company was thus caught in a squeeze:  often its aircraft had been sold in weaker dollars while its production costs had been covered by stronger currencies.

The basic inability to sell its aircraft at an economic price led to Fokker’s problems.  Fokker’s financial difficulties had not been due to any technical deficiencies in its aircraft nor to a lack of sales.  The Fokker 50, while not enjoying the sales success of the ATR series turboprops (its direct competition), nevertheless generally proved that it was capable of maintaining significant market share.  The program appeared to have lots of sales life left.  In particular, as the market moves toward higher capacity transports in the 65-90 passenger range, the Fokker 60 stretched version might have been a logical and profitable extension of the Fokker turboprop line.

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I'll go for the EADS CASA CN295 as a replacement for the Nomad.. :armycool:
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