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Upcoming Navy projects; news and discussions
Topic Started: Oct 14 2004, 05:57 PM (19,116 Views)
adroth
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jammerjamesky
Jul 9 2005, 08:28 AM

http://www.thici.com/

below are the link site of keppel industies in the philippines

http://www.keppelcebu.com.ph/

These shipyards have been discussed extensively here:

http://s3.invisionfree.com/Defense_Philipp...p?showtopic=870

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1 corvette from other country's can blow up those four ship's. there it goes our 48 million pesos and the life of our dear sailors.


I don't have figures to back this up, but I believe it is reasonable to assume that it'll cost a lot more to make one ship from scratch and equip it, than to refurbish existing ships.

We need hulls in the water. Not all of them are expected to go head-to-head for a potential aggressor's ship.
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Adroth: in the short run, newly-built ships are indeed more expensive than the older ones but in the long run, newly-built ships are more cost and combat effective (meaning lesser time to be drydocked for maintenance checks and lesser money to be spent on repairs and upgrading) than the older, World War II-era vessels (which spend more time in the docks than at sea and more expensive to maintain and operate).

let's face it. the PN really has no money to buy newly-built ships except inshore patrol boats but there is this dilemma of replacing the rusting hulls that are already totally obsolete by modern standards. perhaps the only way for the Navy to be able to replace those rusting hulls is to buy second-hand but obviously younger vessels that are surplus from foreign navies such as those A-69 corvettes from France.
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jammerjamesky
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Let us face the reality guys. Our navy has no money to buy or even build new ships but there is a big chance to got a seceond hand hulls. for example the newly commissioned ex U.S. PG 1 - Cyclone or BRP GMA. It was a good deal, i think. The hulls never got a 1 decade of service in US navy and later transferred to the Coast Guard. We can push thru also for the remaining cyclone class ships.They are on there way on decommissioning,those are the sister ship of BRP GMA .Right now those ships are being replaced by the typhoon class ship an improve design of the cyclone class patrol boat. Or even push a deal with those decommissioned boats from france.
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IMHO, we are really beating a dead horse with this topic. The comments are just merely being repeated over and over again. Please read all the prior posts. Paulit-ulit na lang. Hindi ba kayo nagsasawa?
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thats good news
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Cygnus
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Jun 15 2005, 04:03 PM
I think refurbishing is good but replacements are far better. Yes, you can refurbish old ships like our OPV's, but they are still a sitting duck againt a surprise attack by enemy crafts more than 10 times lesser their size and are armed with SSMs.

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Its about time the PN replace the old ships... Hope we can have the Singaporean LSTs as replacements for our old WW2 floating coffins...

Then the rest fast missle armed patrol boats... Similar to what teh PN originally was a "Mosquito Fleet". Composed of fast small wel armed ships...

I salute Thailand and Singapore for having a great Navy and Armed Forces... Wish AFP was the same. :armycry:
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Zero wing
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Ya but comrade we need to put something hard with love for the country like buy or making Ships that navy can fight with who knows maybe more men will enlist for the navy
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powerdreams
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hello sir,im just suggesting maybe the military personel can find some good talents and skills in our governments universities out there in manila like technological university of the philippines ,im a graduate therethey have machine operations curricullum and updated studies because its engineering departemnt is supported by the jica(japan international cooperation agency)i think im right with the meaning,.
we have special studies and laboratories there that are up to date in terms of technology.would you believe that students of la salle used to study and make their feasibility studies there. :aberet:
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berkzzz
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there's a lot of good student's from TUP.
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The upcoming Philippine navy projects till 2010/2011 based on past reports inlcuded 3 MPAC patrol craft, RHIBs,an LCU as well as an MRV(alias hospital ship).

Guess what? a Filipino actually made designs for the LCU, MPAC and RHIBs. The question now is what happened to his designs? are these projects still pushing through? who are the winning bidders . Are the winning bidders filipino or foreign?and why? o ano ngayon? :lollol: :lollol:

Currently, no recent news on the hospital ship yet....

Yes we can !! Think positive !

here is an excerpt of the resume of the Filipino naval architect who designed the LCU, MPAC and RHIBs. He already changed jobs and is now in Dubai.... until now there is still no news on the MPAC patrol craft :lollol: :lollol: :


Feb 2003 to Aug 2005 - SENIOR NAVAL ARCHITECT

HY Marine Works & Construction, Inc.
3010 F. Manalo St., Punta, Sta. Ana, Manila

Designed 27 feet (8.2 meters) Patrol Boats for Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR) for distribution to local governments that are located near fishing grounds; it is used in patrolling for the prevention of illegal and dynamite fishing. The Patrol Boats are made of Fiber Reinforced Plastic (FRP) hull with sandwich marine plywood for Bulkheads (BHD). It has 2 Crew and 6 person capacity. A single 150 HP marine diesel engine propels the boat to a maximum speed of 25 Knots (46.3 km/hr). Meets the standard of Class NK.

Designed Multi-Purpose Attack Craft (MPAC Project) for Philippine Navy. An all weather fast assault craft using all Aluminum and Kevlar materials and the latest navigation system, low profile stealth like design. It can disembark 16 fully equipped military personnel at bow ramp, heavily reinforced for forceful landing on any unprepared beaches. Fitted with Level 4 Armor Protections (protection against 7.62 mm fire) covering the wheel house, the transport room and the engine room. It carries twin 30 Caliber (Cal.) machine guns at forward and one 50 Cal. machine gun at afterward. Powered by two 1050 HP each marine diesel engine driving two Waterjets at calculated cruising speed of 30 Knots (55.56 km/hr) and a top speed of 40 Knots (74.08 km/hr). Meets the standard of ABS Rules and Classification for High Speed Naval Craft.

Designed a Landing Craft Utility (LCU) 150 feet (45.7 meter) in length for the modernization of Philippine Navy.

Researching and designing a 49 feet (15 meter) Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) using Kevlar / Eglass Hybrid Fabric materials for hull construction with foam core structure and powered by one Water jet for Philippine Navy.

http://www.maritimejobs.com/ResumeShow.asp...sumeShow=106972
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