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| adrian_yamato | Dec 8 2007, 12:43 PM Post #11 |
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they already got one of our Islands in Palawan, tapos sasabihin natin "Why not go Chinese?"
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| el_ramon | Dec 8 2007, 01:03 PM Post #12 |
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if so then i wouldnt buy an SAR, i might agree with the present govt. i might just waste it all in education like we does now. |
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| spearhead | Dec 9 2007, 05:54 AM Post #13 |
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DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer.
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why dont we just let the empire of china rule the philippines!!!!???? beside puro problematic naman yung bansa natin tsaka mga liders natin ay ayaw tayo bilhan ng mga laruan na gusto natin! hehehehe its ok the spaniards tried it, japanese did that and the americans did that, its just us who didn't like it thats why meron laging insurgency noon harharharhar!!!
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| Marschall | Dec 9 2007, 06:42 AM Post #14 |
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Why go Chinese? Tactics. Obviously we stand NO chance against the Chinese military power. Hence why we ought NOT to anger these people: try to keep a balance been appropriate way of defending our interests and not being too provocative. Why buy Chinese goods? Because they are cheapER than US products. We get more for the same amount of money. I'm not saying we should buy Chinese weapons BUT that we should actually consider e.g. buying cheaper Chinese Helos for SAR missions: it's not like the Chinese would be threatening our country when we use their SAR helos... And please don't think I'm pro-China. In fact I come from Palawan and would love to see it heavily armed... BUT currently we are very weak and ought to check all possibilities to buy price-worthy hardware for CIVIL purposes so we can save more for our MILITARY. Spending the budget wisely... |
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| Marschall | Dec 9 2007, 06:46 AM Post #15 |
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I'd say we wait and work on improving the country. Try to help change it for the better... |
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"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei “When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven’t got any.” - G. K. Chesterton MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you. | |
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| adroth | Dec 9 2007, 01:23 PM Post #16 |
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Presidential helicopters serve double duty as SAR choppers, and have been seconded to the 505th SAR in the past when there is a need for additional birds. The photo below shows one such instance, during the Leyte landslide a while back. The Huey in the photo is similar in model the new ones that were bought.
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| Tora^2 | Dec 9 2007, 03:00 PM Post #17 |
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One thing we should copy from the Chinese is the way they they deal with graft and corruption: One bullet to the head billed to the family of the offender |
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| seWer Rat | Dec 9 2007, 07:25 PM Post #18 |
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but sir adroth, you have to agree that a dedicated SAR helo has advantages over a Presidential-cum-rescue chopper. Its more a logistics/transport than actual search ans rescue - such us finding and winching up victims from trees and rooftops, etc. |
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| adroth | Dec 10 2007, 02:09 AM Post #19 |
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This is how the 505th SAR conducts some of its rescues . .. with ladders dangling below the chopper. The status of the various rescue hoists is . . . a mystery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQV7J3roAJU How would it be different with the Presidential chopper-cum-SAR? The presidential chopper would undoubtedly have more navigational aids than the usual Huey, permitting rescues in even adverse conditions. Note the bump on the nose in the photo. So if that is how the PAF gets more of that kind of capability for rescues, then so be it. The PAF has this capability with the second Huey II, but not with the other vanilla flavor Hueys. === ~~~ ==== Note, I am not saying that I'm happy about the presidential chopper buy. I am actually quite disappointed. I just don't think the "better buy SAR choppers" is a bullet proof argument. |
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| seWer Rat | Dec 10 2007, 08:06 AM Post #20 |
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Why not? Or it should be the other way around, a SAR helicopter (complete with equipment and insignia as SAR helo)) that doubles as a Presidential helicopter? It should help raise the president's ganda points - a president that is comfortable riding a SAR chopper to the provinces. She might pass an accident/disaster along the way and will right on board during the rescue - surefire way to endear her to the people. |
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