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| MG520's best configuration(for PAF use)?; missiles, etc. | |
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| saver111 | Mar 24 2006, 12:11 PM Post #21 |
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So they had it already. That requirement of a medium size or junior missile was their answer to those precision strikes they are doing against identified terrorist lairs wherein they could not avoid destroying nearby houses of civilians thus creating so much collateral damages. Same with close-in support to friendly forces. They were always correct in stating that they only hit the targets, but the impact of those explosions actually affected if not destroyed houses of lightly built materials, making reports of media regarding civilians killed also correct. |
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| tirad | Mar 24 2006, 01:01 PM Post #22 |
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Yes, I remember reading about this a few years back and am a bit surprised it's taken so long to develop. I guess everybody was busy with the helicopter-fired anti-tank missile rat race; when sometimes all you really need is some precision small rocket fire. I also seem to recall reading that they had earlier pushed back or even canceled development of this product but maybe the worsening urban-based Iraqi insurgency prodded the Americans to push through with it. Back to basics talaga ang America, no. The unguided 2.75" rocket is relatively cheap (even we can afford it) but not very accurate. These guided rockets would, of course, be more expensive but I'd imagine helicopters would be able to carry a mix of guided and unguided rockets, for both precision and area fire. Nice marketing name: Hellfire Junior, pero baka hint din sa price. Well, I'd speculate in the next few years, other developers outside the US will come up with a similar product, maybe cheaper. (After all these years of using 2.75" rockets, our local IT boys didn't think up a simple, cheap guidance system for these rockets?) |
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| saver111 | Mar 24 2006, 01:43 PM Post #23 |
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For sure Israel will pursue this as they are more involve in helicopter attacks on militant targets. |
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| tirad | Mar 30 2006, 11:41 AM Post #24 |
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saver, Looks like the Israelis are already onto it...
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| saver111 | Mar 30 2006, 11:54 AM Post #25 |
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Lahat puede! From Tanks, choppers, 105/120 guns and even planning for 106RR modifications.That's very applicable to our AFP's inventory. Maybe we can develop our own and call it "Hellfire Baby" or if there's a much smaller one, "Hellfire Infant", Parang Armalite, hehe. |
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| tirad | Mar 30 2006, 01:16 PM Post #26 |
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Oo nga, astig yang LAHAT, the missile. Lahat pinatulan: pwede kagad sa helicopter, standalone vehicle launcher, 106RR pag meron na, tapos later kung mag-scale up tayo sa 105 FSV, sa UAV din, baka mamya pati 105 howitzer. Commonality to the extreme. Claimed to also have an anti-helicopter application. They'll probably also develop a bunker-buster variant besides the antitank warhead. The 106RR version being developed (or already developed? the article's from 2004) is particularly intriguing. Brings the old 106 into the 21st century: retains its relatively low-cost bunker-buster role with conventional rounds, and turns into an ATGM launcher cum precision strike weapon with LAHAT.
Recon team with laser designator targets ASG hideout at a small clearing. Ready LAHAT in standalone launcher or Defender or super-elevated 106RR several kilometers away. Fire. Hintay sandali. Ka-boom.
Aha, nego for local production. Hope this LAHAT would the short-list if/when the AFP's looking to adopt a missile type in the future. |
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| flipzi | Aug 5 2007, 11:54 AM Post #27 |
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![]() 1st Config: four 7.62 mgs and two 2.75 inch rocket pods in each side ![]() 2nd Config: two 2.75 inch rocket pods in each side 3rd Config: is the 1 gun on one side and a rocket pod on the other.
taken form Seven hours of hell in Tipo-Tipo http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=4620&st=15&#last Or, better yet, how about a M134 for the MG520? The photo below is actually a M134 on a Huey.
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| Chowking | Aug 5 2007, 06:27 PM Post #28 |
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the last pic is awesome |
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| page mcney | Aug 5 2007, 10:55 PM Post #29 |
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WHY NOT OPTION NO.5: A GATLING GUN ON ONE SIDE AND A 4Omm GRANADE LAUNCHER (IN POD FORM) ON THE OTHER SIDE? |
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| flipzi | Aug 6 2007, 11:37 AM Post #30 |
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Not a bad setup. If we can arm the Defenders with M134, i suggest they put 2 M134 gun, one on each side. Then 2 rocket pods. If such load will be too heavy then they can just put one M134 on one side and a rocket pod on the other. Or 2 M134 on each side and just discard the roket pod. A tandem of MG520, one armed with 2 M134 only and the other is armed with 2 rocket pods should work fine. ![]() A single MG 520 doing a 5-second sweep on enemy position will indeed unleash the needed fire suppression. The amount of debris thrown into the air or the falling leaves and branches hit by the rain of bullets will surely distract the enemy's sight. This is a good fire suppression/cover strategy. That's for Configuration #6. :thumb: |
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