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Local gun industry
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Rapidfire	Jul 13 2007, 06:08 PM Post #1
Professional Toy Gun Technician Posts: 532 Group: Regulars Member #445 Joined: April 22, 2005	the AFP should support the local weapons industry Quote: A Filipino sales representative demonstrates a Philippine made 9mm sub-machine gun during a yearly gun show held inside a local mall in Quezon City north of Manila Philippines, on 12 July 2007. The Philippine National Police (PNP) and the Association of Firearms and Ammunition Dealers (AFAD) told that the annual gun show will help in promoting responsible gun ownership as well as supporting the government’s campaign against loose firearms. EPA/MIKE F. ALQUINTO Quote: Filipino gun enthusiasts view a Philippine made 9mm sub-machine gun during a yearly gun show held inside a local mall in Quezon City north of Manila Philippines, on 12 July 2007. The Philippine National Police (PNP) and the Association of Firearms and Ammunition Dealers (AFAD) told that the annual gun show will help in promoting responsible gun ownership as well as supporting the government’s campaign against loose firearms. EPA/MIKE F. ALQUINTO



Cygnus	Jul 16 2007, 12:15 PM Post #2
Member Posts: 257 Group: Regulars Member #1,315 Joined: October 24, 2006	Rapidfire Jul 13 2007, 06:08 PM the AFP should support the local weapons industry In as much as this are a start of the local gun industry, there is a way to leap frog and move to more advance designs... Floro Company is contracted by Singapore Technology to produce much of the SAR-21s for SAF [Singapore Armed Forces]. Cant find my copy of local magazine, showing the SAR-21 in Floro factory being produced... SAR-21 is a licensed version of Israels TAR-21 "Tavor" Hope the AFP just buy its copies from Floro, atleast SAR-21s for our troopers. Its cheaper to produce here kaya contracted ng ST.
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Cygnus	Jul 16 2007, 12:18 PM Post #3
Member Posts: 257 Group: Regulars Member #1,315 Joined: October 24, 2006	Rapidfire Jul 13 2007, 06:08 PM the AFP should support the local weapons industry In as much as this are a start of the local gun industry, there is a way to leap frog and move to more advance designs... Floro Company is contracted by Singapore Technology to produce much of the SAR-21s for SAF [Singapore Armed Forces]. Cant find my copy of local magazine, showing the SAR-21 in Floro factory being produced... SAR-21 is a licensed version of Israels TAR-21 "Tavor" Hope the AFP just buy its copies from Floro, atleast SAR-21s for our troopers. Its cheaper to produce here kaya contracted ng ST.
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City Hunter	Jul 16 2007, 08:48 PM Post #4
Member Posts: 1,456 Group: Regulars Member #235 Joined: December 6, 2004	Bakit weird na yun KG9 copy? Is it using a different system? Easy to create pero hindi siya dapat ang ginawang display. Parang backyard industry lang labas capability natin. Should be an impressive model. Kahit improvement lang ng M16 o M14 or any police weapon. And why close one eye pa when reflex sight gamit? Would be nice if meron local official copies ng Sterling na silenced for our troops use.
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Tora^2	Jul 17 2007, 01:27 AM Post #5
Member Posts: 967 Group: Regulars Member #518 Joined: August 8, 2005	The Singapore-designed and proudly Philippine-made SAR-21 is made for the use of the Singaporean Army though is exported for Law Enforcement Agencies. Quote: Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt Overall length: 805 mm Barrel length: 508 mm Weight: 3.82 kg without magazine and accessories, 4.44 kg loaded with magazine and 30 rounds of ammunition Magazine capacity: 30 rounds Rate of fire: 450-650 rounds per minute Effective range: about 500 meters The SAR-21 is the latest development of the Singapore's Chartered Industries company, now known as the Singapore Technologies Kinetics division. This rifle was first displayed on public in 1999, at the DSEi '99 defense exhibition. At the present time the SAR-21 is adopted by the Singapore Armed Forces as the standard assault rifle, and gradually replaces the ageing M16S1 (Singapore-made M16A1 rifle), and CIS previous SAR-80 and SR-88 rifles. It is also offered for export military and law enforcement sales. At the present time it's hard to judge this rifle, but the available reports are quite favorable, stating that the gun is comfortable to carry and fire, accurate, reliable and has low recoil. While SAR-21 is much shorter than the M16 rifle with the barrel of the same length, the SAR-21 has the disadvantage of the right-side only extraction, with no provisions to change it to the left side (unlike most other modern bullpup rifles, like the Steyr AUG, GIAT FAMAS or the IMI Tavor). Technical description. The SAR-21 represents some kind of mainstream in the turn-of-the-centuries small arms technology. It is of bullpup layout, and utilizes the most conventional gas operated, rotating bolt locked action, with detachable box magazine feeding. The gas system of the SAR-21 is located above the barrel. The long stroke piston is rigidly attached to the bolt carrier. The M16-style rotating bolt has 7 lugs and locks into the barrel extension. The return spring is partially housed inside the hollow gas piston rod and behind it. The charging handle is located above the gun housing, under the scope / carrying handle unit, and folds forward when not in use. The charging handle does not reciprocate when gun is fired. On the SAR-21 P (Picatinny rail) and SAR-21 RIS (Rail Interface System) versions of the basic design the charging handle is moved to the left side of the gun, leaving the place at the top for the sights / accessory rail. The housing of the SAR-21 is made from tough, high impact resistant polymer, and consists of barrel section with the barrel / gas system, forearm and sights, upper receiver with the pistol grip and magazine housing, and the lower receiver with the buttplate and the hammer unit inside. All major parts are held together by the push-pins and can be separated for disassembly without any special tools. The upper receiver also incorporates a special safety system, which protects the shooters' face in the event of the cartridge case rupture or explosion. The safety switch is located at the front of the enlarged triggerguard and is of the cross-bolt, push-button type. SAR-21 can provide 2 modes of fire, single shots and full automatic fire. The SAR-21 is fed using proprietary 30-rounds box magazines, made from the translucent plastic. The standard sighting equipment includes an integral 1.5X magnification telescope sight, with the emergency backup open sights formed at the top of the telescope housing. The SAR-21 P and SAR-21 RIS have no integral sights, instead these rifles featured a NATO-standard Picatinny type scope rail at the top of the gun, that can be fitted with wide variety of day and night sighting devices. Another interesting feature of SAR-21 is that it incorporates a laser aiming module (LAM, also sometimes referred as a laser pointer) as a standard feature. The LAM is mounted below the barrel, inside the forearm, and can emit either visible or infrared beams. The LAM switch is built into the forearm of the rifle. The standard SAR-21can be fitted with the 40mm underbarrel grenade launchers, either US-made M203 or Singapore-made CIS 40GL. The SAR-21 RIS can sport a wide variety of add-on tactical accessories, including vertical "assault" foregrip, tactical lights etc. -- http://world.guns.ru/assault/as31-e.htm If you ask me, the major hindrances of the local firearms industry don't include our highly restrictive gun laws since. After all, our biggest customers aren't individual consumers like Fil-Chi businessmen who need to defend themselves against kidnappers, robbers and crooked cops and sport practical shooters. it would be the AFP, PNP, other law enforcement agencies and private security firms. What hinders local gun makers include: - An abundance of usable Small Arms imported and license-built during the Martial Law Years. Many discarded arms from the AFP are split between the PNP and other LE Agencies or sold off to local security firms. Others are kept in storage for possible use by reserve units for training purposes. - Continued shipments of small arms as part of Military Assistance packages from the US which increases supply of small arms - A flawed procurement system that lacks transparency - Reputed poor quality of locally-produced arms and ammo (Dud M203 and 81MM Mortar Rounds, 1911 slides that crack) which causes Defense officials to prefer established imported brands like Colt (M16s) FN Herstal (M249s), Pietro Beretta (M9s) and Heckler & Koch (MP5s)
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alvin7.62x51mm	Jan 19 2011, 06:22 PM Post #6
Trainee Posts: 24 Group: Trainees Member #6,188 Joined: January 17, 2011	Rapidfire Jul 13 2007, 06:08 PM the AFP should support the local weapons industry gux2 ko nyan!! floro mk9!! kaso studyante lng ako'



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