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Hueys to be phased out!
Topic Started: May 28 2007, 11:50 AM (4,317 Views)
gt6282
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Sir yang AH1 eh Attack Helos.. I think and I believe this thread is about Dual purpose(Attack and Transpo) Helos katulad ng Hueys natin.. ok lang magsuggest pero sa tamang thread lang po. :armywink:
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or a EC725
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jammerjamesky
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EC 725?

Category: Medium lift Miltary Transport Helicopter

About the medium lift helicopter is that there was a topic before generated about the capacity/category of helicopter needed in our inventory. We must be realistic that the category of the unit that you are mentioning is in the Medium Lift Category in which we need it also but it takes time to see a unit for that kind of role and purpose. This unit has it own purpose when the AFP will try to purchase in the future. They already admit in the past that they need a unit also on this category: EC 725, NH-90, EH 101, AS 332, AS 532 and S-92 are some of those units that belongs in this bracket.

EC 725 cannot be compared to the UH-1H or Daulphin class. It is far from the usual utility type of helicopter.Let us be realistic enough. ANALYZE and THINK twice please. UH-1H can be upgraded to Huey II configuration or replace them with other units that belongs to this category.

Sir for your information, we are trying to replace a whole bunch of Huey's in our inventory. Matching its own category and other spefications required.

Here is a link that is useful enough for you to analyze and compare helicopters on your thought.
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gt6282
Aug 13 2007, 05:06 PM
Sir yang AH1 eh Attack Helos.. I think and I believe this thread is about Dual purpose(Attack and Transpo) Helos katulad ng Hueys natin.. ok lang magsuggest pero sa tamang thread lang po.  :armywink:

Z9s or some blackhawks then?

MI-17 are too big and definitely is out of the picture.

what about a couple of VH-71 para narin sa ating presidente?

anyway, i think we should atleast buy a couple of ARHs like this to complement our main gunships (if ever the afp wont install a similar imaging system like the one it has):
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thats what we need to hunt down those fV@ck!*g abusayaff and commies! :snipemo:
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato

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spearhead
Aug 16 2007, 09:27 PM


anyway, i think we should atleast buy a couple of ARHs like this to complement our main gunships (if ever the afp wont install a similar imaging system like the one it has):
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thats what we need to hunt down those fV@ck!*g abusayaff and commies!  :snipemo:

Unfortunately, that ARH you were referrring to, the Bell Textron ARH-70 was killed off. It was It was to have acted as a cheaper replacement than the also killed off Commanche to the the OH-58 Kiowa Observation/Light Attack helo. The ARH 70 program's development costs ballooned and was plagued with delays. The funding for the program was cut off in favor of other weapons programs.

It also appears that new LUHs that can meet our mission reqs is also in short supply

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Looks like one possible candidate for LUH is having problems meeting even the US Army's requirements.


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LUH Takes More Hits

Another excellent dispatch from DT friend, Bob Cox, who's a top contributor to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram's new Sky Talk blog and a veteran aerospace reporter for them...

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Pentagon weapons testers are not overly impressed with the Army's new light utility helicopter, the UH-72A Lakota, which is very similar to the Eurocopter EC-145.

In a recently issued report, the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation said that while the new helicopters can probably serve fine as the equivalent of a small pickup truck they're not well suited to tougher tasks, such as carrying two critically injured patients - one of the Army's requirements.

The UH-72A is intended primarily for use by the National Guard and stateside Army units as a utility aircraft, meaning carrying four or five people from point A to Point B. It's purpose is to allow the Army to keep its larger, more powerful Blackhawks for use by combat units. The report does indicate the Lakota is an improvement over the aging UH-1H Hueys and OH-58A/C Kiowa models the guard now has.

But the helicopter failed to meet key mission requirements specified by the Army, including having enough room to carry two critically ill patients with an attending medic. It also cannot lift the required weights, internally or externally, at high altitudes and hot weather. And the cabin air conditioning, which is different than that of the commercial EC-145, cannot keep temperatures low enough. The aircraft manual specifies a condition where the avionics may shut down after just 30-minutes if operated at too high a temperature.

Produced by Eurocopter/EADS, the UH-72A was selected by the Army a year ago after a competition involving four aircraft that also included entries from MD Helicopters, Bell Helicopter and AgustaWestland. American Eurocopter, the U.S. arm of the French-German consortium, is gearing up to build more than 300 of the new aircraft at a plant in Mississippi.

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/cat_pl...ers_blimps.html


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the PT6 twin pack powered Huey II seems interesting.

also the Eurocopter EC155. its the latest variant of what the PAF is interested in replacing the hueys which is the dolphin. the EC155 have 40% more cabin volume so its perfect! but i dont think eurocopter is selling the EC155 for military purposes. i think they are pushing for other items in their line-up.
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EC 135 ?

MD Explorer ? - MD 520 series is already in the inventory

Bell 412 EP/HP/Sentinel? -4 unit in our inventory under the Presidential Wing

EC 155 Daulphin class/Z-9?

Blackhawk?

AB 139?

S-76 C?

Huey II?
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spearhead
Aug 16 2007, 09:27 PM
Z9s or some blackhawks then?

MI-17 are too big and definitely is out of the picture.

what about a couple of VH-71 para narin sa ating presidente?

anyway, i think we should atleast buy a couple of ARHs like this to complement our main gunships (if ever the afp wont install a similar imaging system like the one it has):
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thats what we need to hunt down those fV@ck!*g abusayaff and commies! :snipemo:

IF THIS HELO WAS "KILLED-OFF", THEN WHY NOT CONVERT SOME JETRANGERS FOR THIS STANDARD? IT IS STILL CHEAPER, AND STILL CAN BE DUAL PURPOSE (ATTACK/TRANSPORT)..

WHY NOT CONSIDER IT AGAIN?
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Sep 10 2007, 10:36 PM
spearhead
Aug 16 2007, 09:27 PM
Z9s or some blackhawks then?

MI-17 are too big and definitely is out of the picture.

what about a couple of VH-71 para narin sa ating presidente?

anyway, i think we should atleast buy a couple of ARHs like this to complement our main gunships (if ever the afp wont install a similar imaging system like the one it has):
Posted Image

thats what we need to hunt down those fV@ck!*g abusayaff and commies!  :snipemo:

IF THIS HELO WAS "KILLED-OFF", THEN WHY NOT CONVERT SOME JETRANGERS FOR THIS STANDARD? IT IS STILL CHEAPER, AND STILL CAN BE DUAL PURPOSE (ATTACK/TRANSPORT)..

WHY NOT CONSIDER IT AGAIN?

Bduget restraint yata dude. :armysmile:
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato

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spearhead
Sep 11 2007, 09:38 PM
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Sep 10 2007, 10:36 PM
spearhead
Aug 16 2007, 09:27 PM
Z9s or some blackhawks then?

MI-17 are too big and definitely is out of the picture.

what about a couple of VH-71 para narin sa ating presidente?

anyway, i think we should atleast buy a couple of ARHs like this to complement our main gunships (if ever the afp wont install a similar imaging system like the one it has):
Posted Image

thats what we need to hunt down those fV@ck!*g abusayaff and commies!   :snipemo:

IF THIS HELO WAS "KILLED-OFF", THEN WHY NOT CONVERT SOME JETRANGERS FOR THIS STANDARD? IT IS STILL CHEAPER, AND STILL CAN BE DUAL PURPOSE (ATTACK/TRANSPORT)..

WHY NOT CONSIDER IT AGAIN?

Bduget restraint yata dude. :armysmile:

hehehehhehehehehehe...

but still, i think it is still cheaper to convert soome JETRANGERS to this standard, it is identical to the jetranger as well...
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