Chinese-made weapons and equipment for the AFP?

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Chinese-made weapons and equipment for the AFP?
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seWer Rat	Mar 9 2007, 04:23 PM Post #11
amateur sewer cleaner Posts: 3,124 Group: Elite Member #87 Joined: August 19, 2004	dstryer23 Mar 9 2007, 02:10 PM As I had asked in the other forum what could be the reactions of the CPP/NPA upon learning that there arch enemy is buying weapons intended to kill them from Comrade Maos country.The CPP sold out by Communist China for a sum of money. Will we see there front organization picketing the Chinese Embassy shouting " Down with Imperialist China! Down with Capitalist China!"? Hahaha! you are right bro , damn, it would be doubly painful on their part when they are being blasted to pieces by Z9 helos, cut in half by Chinese bullets and and trampled over by Chinese APCs - all used by the AFP in the future. Communism is dead, as dead as Lenin and Stalin and Mao Zedong put together. China is a communist in name only but greedy capitalism is now running rampant. :thumb: Hear this Sison, you have better chances of marrying Ara Mina than taking over this country with your brand of commie sheit! awwrrrr
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flipzi	Mar 9 2007, 04:29 PM Post #12
R-A-T-S Posts: 8,213 Group: Elite Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	israeli Mar 9 2007, 01:09 AM with this latest unconfirmed information about the PAF acquiring Harbin Z-9G modified attack helicopters, could this open the possibility of the Armed Forces of the Philippines slowly opening itself up to the purchase of Chinese-made weapons and equipment? are we going to see ourselves using stuff such as F-7 Airguard and JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft; WZ523 APCs; K-8 Karakorum trainers; Norinco CQ assault rifles; and Naresuan-type frigates? JF17? Oh boy! We've forgotten what we've discussed about what makes an aircraft win! Have we forgotten the bubble canopies and the rear quadrants, the avionics, the delta wings, payloads, manueverability, etc, etc? I am not totally against the Z-9G because it's frame is European "quality". But JF-17? Come on, guys. Let's all consider all the factors. We are talking of our "EXTERNAL DEFENSE" here. Let's not make our military a junkyard. Although, we are .... at this point in time, we should now give the military what it should have to face the future. By the way, the US must understand that we WILL NEVER BUY a very expensive chopper like the Apache. The reasonable and acceptable fall back is the Super Cobra. Had the US offered that, plus a very viable payment scheme, the US would have a great chance of winning the contract.
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The Patriot	Mar 9 2007, 04:57 PM Post #13
Trainee Posts: 49 Group: Trainees Member #31 Joined: July 27, 2004	There are quite a wide variety of Chinese military aircraft. I think what the AFP should consider acquiring is the type that is most applicable to its current primary objective of defeating the insurgency soon - and this would mean ground attack aircraft. To israeli (which I surmise is quite knowledgeable on this) what particular Chinese aircraft available that would fit this category?



Duminus	Mar 9 2007, 05:02 PM Post #14
PDFF Admin Support Posts: 7,083 Group: PDFF Admin Group Member #2 Joined: July 9, 2004	I'm not too keen on the idea of acquiring more Chinese aircraft beyond the Z9 gunships. However, a few Chinese land warfare equipment are worth considering by the AFP.



spearhead	Mar 9 2007, 11:05 PM Post #15
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	israeli Mar 9 2007, 01:09 AM with this latest unconfirmed information about the PAF acquiring Harbin Z-9G modified attack helicopters, could this open the possibility of the Armed Forces of the Philippines slowly opening itself up to the purchase of Chinese-made weapons and equipment? are we going to see ourselves using stuff such as F-7 Airguard and JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft; WZ523 APCs; K-8 Karakorum trainers; Norinco CQ assault rifles; and Naresuan-type frigates? why not? i think we should buy more chinese made weapons, from their HJ-8 anti -tank missile, to JF series fighter jets. :thumb: HJ-8 Anti-Tank missile: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/wor...a/hj-8-pics.htm imagine that our pilots will be flying these: http://www.chinatoday.com/arm/ Harbin Z-9A Haitun it surely be better than our F-5s & S211s!
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Marschall	Mar 9 2007, 11:06 PM Post #16
Member Posts: 1,299 Group: Regulars Member #621 Joined: December 9, 2005	Duminus Mar 9 2007, 05:02 PM I'm not too keen on the idea of acquiring more Chinese aircraft beyond the Z9 gunships. However, a few Chinese land warfare equipment are worth considering by the AFP. I agree... believe we should also seriously take into consideration buying Chinese (cheaper) ground military equipments; like howitzers, mortars, perhaps APCs and even tanks... But for the PAF, I'd rather go Russian or Western: reliable and effective. Perhaps we could also have a joint-venture with the Chinese and slowly check their tech
	"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei �When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven�t got any.� - G. K. Chesterton MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you.


spearhead	Mar 9 2007, 11:29 PM Post #17
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Ito ba ang gusto ng gobyerno natin ngayon? Totoo bang Night-Capable ito? Shiit ayoko na kay Z-9G! Mukha syang baluga na isdang lumilipad! Kamukha nya si Nemo na naka-camouflage lang! Siguradong easy target ito! Wala man syang remote forward gun-turret... Bahala na nga ang gobyerno natin, mas mabuti na ganito kesa sa wala.
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


spearhead	Mar 9 2007, 11:39 PM Post #18
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	Ini-export na ba ng china ang kanilang Z-10? Kasi bakit pa tayo mag-Z-9 kung may Z-10 naman ang china? :thumb:
	"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato


israeli	Mar 10 2007, 12:23 AM Post #19
Posts: 3,069 Group: Elite Member #22 Joined: July 13, 2004	the WZ-10 is still under development, with the Z-9 "modified" attack helicopter being the stop-gap measure prior to the launch of the WZ-10. in short, should the PAF does buy Z-9Gs, we will be used by the Chinese as their crash test dummies to determine what modifications should be made to the WZ-10.
	"To secure peace is to prepare for war." - Carl Von Clausewitz


israeli	Mar 10 2007, 12:46 AM Post #20
Posts: 3,069 Group: Elite Member #22 Joined: July 13, 2004	although i am furious about the latest bruhaha over the alleged purchase by the PAF of Harbin Z-9Gs, i am still not closing my options on other Chinese-made weapons and equipment such as the WZ523 APC, K-8 Karakorum basic jet trainer, JF-17 Thunder MRF, J-10 MRF, and Harbin Y-12 transport planes.
	"To secure peace is to prepare for war." - Carl Von Clausewitz


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