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| truegrit | Jun 27 2011, 08:29 AM Post #751 |
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Based dun sa statement ni PNoy, looks like malabo yung F18s na yan kaya balik tayo sa KFir C10s and LIFTs. Remember also that PNoy specifically mentioned that we don't have the budget to acquire 4th generations Fighter jets but we can settle for 3rd Gen MRF.. http://youtu.be/uj-tK2FaWa0 PAF anniversary |
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| boxster | Jun 27 2011, 10:07 AM Post #752 |
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What is surprising is the inclusion of combat utility helicopters..are they planning some more CUH? Or are they just deceiving the Govt and the public? What's wth Ground attack aircrafts. Baka they are referring to propeller type like the super tuscano or Kt1 turbo props. Why no plans for jets kahit LIFTs. Baka NASA isip nanamn nilang gawin pabaon nag budget na yn. How can u have a modest external defense with turbo props and CUH? Damn generals. |
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| flipzi | Jun 27 2011, 11:04 AM Post #753 |
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CUH maybe related to the istalled Sokol Utility chopper deal. Ground attack in not particular. It could simply be more OV10, more SF260 that were converted into an attack aircraft or it could be the newer planes. Attach helicopters can also be considered if it meant "ground attack".
Sounds good, whatever this is! :thumb: |
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| pachador | Jun 27 2011, 01:09 PM Post #754 |
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After looking at all the news articles since late 2010 till now, below are my best estimates: 2011 - Acquisition worth 11 billion pesos : NAVY - 3 navy patrol helicopters with sensors(could be anti-submarine and/or anti-shipping). I believe this will be the choppers to be deployed onboard the navy Hamilton cutters 3 fixed wing aircraft(e.g. I believe this will be small propeller aircraft with radar, e.g. BN2 -Islander) 3 MPACs(small patrol boats) 4 Hamilton cutters(1 or 2 this year and the other 2 in 2012 or 2013 but the money will come from the 11 billion in 2011) 1 LCU AIR FORCE - 1 long long range maritime patrol aircraft for the air force(e.g. CASA 212. I think this will be a bigger maritime patrol aircraft because it mentions the word "long range") 2 SAR helicopters for the air force The reason they are prioritising the navy's air wing is that they have not been replaced since the 1970s and they are needed for patrolling, and secondly, in the first CUP(202006-2010, the air force was prioritized with their C-130s, Hueys , utility helicopters, Broncos, MD520 upgrades) 2012 to 2016 - 40 to 42 billion billion acquisitions Air Force will get 14 billion - 6 attack helicopters(e.g. Cobra) and 4 LIFT(this is the one that has been modified I believe to become the 2-3 F18s) Air Defense radars(anti-aircraft radars also mentioned) - this might be mobile radars ,e.g. HAWK missile radars Army -110 units of M-113 armored vehicles(upgraded with better armor and unknown gun), more anti-tank weapons( my rough estimate is around 1,000 rocket launchers) Navy will get 14 billion or more - Most or all of the following will be acquired: 2 OPVs, 2 multi-purpose helicopters, more anti-tank weapons( rough estimate is around 100) , 3 MRVs, 4 WHEC Cutters, 2-4 Perry Class frigates, 1 destroyer the Coast Guard is also looking to buy WHEC cutters either 2nd-hand or brand-new. Regarding the 8 cutters mentioned by Ambassador Cuisia, my guess is the navy will get 4 WHECs while the PCG will get the other 4 WHECs |
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| AVBsupersonic | Jun 27 2011, 04:09 PM Post #755 |
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That reason is appalling, how can they say that when we don't have even an AIR DEFENCE WING SQUADRONS right now and has never been replaced by proper ones... We don't have the ability to face our threats right now....! Let' see what are they going to do starting JULY when "SHI LANG" Carrier comes out....  The Philippines should also invest more on ANTI-AIR DEFENCE WEAPONS as well! Since the Chicoms have a lot of air power... |
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| pachador | Jun 28 2011, 12:37 AM Post #756 |
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the budget for the F-18s/LIfts will come from the 40 billion in 2012 -2016 which jives wth MrZ'z post where he said 2013.. hindi kasya ang 11 billion sa 2011, we need to prioritize for 2011 the naval part because they will physically eyeball/board andseizure/patrol the OPFOR on the seas |
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| flipzi | Jun 28 2011, 12:42 AM Post #757 |
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Perry-class frigates? :thumb: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display....0&ct=4&tid=1300 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Hazard...y_class_frigate  The ship was hit by 2 Iraqi Exocets but only one detonated. Luckily, the Exocet detonation was not enough to sink the frigate. Amazing! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_(FFG-31) |
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| pachador | Jun 30 2011, 01:01 PM Post #758 |
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the Perry class frigates might be one of the few or if not, the only ship class whose 76mm gun is amidships(gitna) instead of at the bow(front) of the ship !!! |
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| tendatu | Jul 1 2011, 07:12 PM Post #759 |
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where did you get this news? |
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| tendatu | Jul 1 2011, 08:36 PM Post #760 |
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GRABE. SOBRANG SAMA NUNG MGA NAGNAKAW. KAYA TAU NGAUN MINAMALIIT PAGDATING SA ARMFORCES EH DAHIL DUN. DI NA NAKONSENYA. KALIGTASAN NG BANSA NATIN TULOY ANG SANA PELIGRO. |
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