Cadets should pay tuition in PMA

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Cadets should pay tuition in PMA
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jvelarde	Oct 2 2008, 10:35 AM Post #21
Member Posts: 1,332 Group: Regulars Member #550 Joined: September 20, 2005	You are barking up the wrong tree. The PMA does not produce corrupt officers. It is the rotten AFP that takes these young and idealistic officers and turns a lot of them, into, well, alam mo na. Kahit ang mga officers na galing ROTC, ganun din.



gen1	Oct 2 2008, 12:29 PM Post #22
Member Posts: 108 Group: Regulars Member #4,430 Joined: March 31, 2008	I guess no one remembers what the officer corp and the PMA grads were like before they were corrupted by the devil named ferdinand. But the armed forces will eventually be professional again. We'll get there. And by the way, the upper classes does not have a lock on integrity. Matter of fact, I would even say PMAers of more modest means know the definition of Integrity better than the rich boys.



jvelarde	Oct 6 2008, 09:50 AM Post #23
Member Posts: 1,332 Group: Regulars Member #550 Joined: September 20, 2005	gen1 Oct 2 2008, 12:29 PM I guess no one remembers what the officer corp and the PMA grads were like before they were corrupted by the devil named ferdinand. But the armed forces will eventually be professional again. We'll get there. And by the way, the upper classes does not have a lock on integrity. Matter of fact, I would even say PMAers of more modest means know the definition of Integrity better than the rich boys. Gen1, Before Marcos became president, a vice chief of staff was renting an apartment in Cubao since he could not afford to buy a house with his salary. In contrast, the late (and unlamented) Fabian Ver bought a house for his mistress in Dasmarinas Village when he was chief of staff. This two scenarios pretty much sums up what the dictator Marcos did to the AFP. I rest my case.



Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Oct 7 2008, 04:37 AM Post #24
PDFF Moderator Posts: 5,008 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	ctrlaltdel Jul 3 2007, 09:54 AM UP just increased its tuition fees for incoming students several times over - and UP grads and alumni contribute to the Philippine economy and well-being far more than PMA alumni. Not one UP alumni committed corruption as gross as Gen. Garcia et. al did, nor deadly violence as Gringo et al did. So why not impose tuition fees at PMA? Stop making this institution a free ride for future officers intent on amassing wealth and personal gain. Let the cadets pay tuition, it need not be expensive like UP now, even 300 per unit would be fine. Absolutely spot on comments ctrlaltdel ! Why would this guys who are the future rippers of democracy enjoy to acquire a career at the expense of the taxpayers who would be their future victims ?
	*"GUILTY CONSCIENCE NEEDS NO ACCUSER"*


markniraq	Oct 13 2008, 03:31 AM Post #25
Member Posts: 248 Group: Regulars Member #1,162 Joined: September 30, 2006	Its the system emplaced that shapes and reforms the minds of the most talented and upcoming officers who realize their goals only after waddling in the mud. Once they see how easy it is to use the system for personal gain they quickly jump sides. Its the human instincts and need for greed that compels them to step over their fellow man and turn their back on Loyalty, Integrity and Most of All Professionalism, Duty, Honor and Their Country.
	"You Have Never Lived...Till You Have almost Died...For Those Who Fight For It.. Life has a Special Meaning the Protected will Never Know"


heatseeker0714	Oct 13 2008, 03:57 PM Post #26
Trainee Posts: 26 Group: Trainees Member #3,345 Joined: October 3, 2007	BARBER 6 Oct 1 2008, 04:39 AM ctrlaltdel,Jul 3 2007 09:54 AM Not one UP alumni committed corruption as gross as Gen. Garcia et. al did, nor deadly violence as Gringo et al did. anak ng... FERDINAND EDRALIN MARCOS! isama mo pa si FABIAN VER.... ctrlaltdel,Jul 3 2007 09:54 AM Not one UP alumni committed corruption as gross as Gen. Garcia et. al did, nor deadly violence as Gringo et al did. anak ng... FERDINAND EDRALIN MARCOS! isama mo pa si FABIAN VER....



iced_man21	Dec 23 2008, 05:12 PM Post #27
Trainee Posts: 75 Group: Regulars Member #534 Joined: August 29, 2005	When will people stop being immature? Blaming PMA for the actions of its graduates once they leave the portals of their alma mater is a stupid proposition. Requiring current cadets to pay for the mistakes of some cavaliers is even more stupid. If we are to let ourselves be convinced by this arguments, then let us abolish PMA. Carrying on this line of thinking, let us abolish UP for producing Marcos and Ver. Let us abolish all the other schools whose alumni were involved in scandals. Extending the logic further, let us dissolve the Roman Catholic Church because of the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Witch hunts, the sex perverted bishops and priests. Let us even dissolve our nation dahil mga Filipino naman si Macoy, si Ver, si Gen Garcia, si Gringo, silang lahat, Filipino naman eh. And what about the poor students who really wish to enter the PMA due to their desire to serve the country? Do we deny them that chance because they can not pay the tuition fee? And are you serious in insinuating that poor cadets, once they graduate are more likely to become corrupt due to their poverty? I do hope you are not out of your mind, because in effect, you are saying that poor people are inherently corrupt or inclined to be corrupt and dishonest. I do know a lot of people, Filipinos, who would rather be slaves here or in other countries rather than steal or be corrupt. There are a lot of Filipinos who take pride in the dignity of honest work and would never ever stoop to dishonesty. Meron nga mga Filipinos na kahit mahirap, nagsoli ng pera o alahas o gamit na nakita o nakuha nila sa may-ari, kahit na pwede naman nila itong ibulsa. Tapos sasabihin mo na ang mahirap ay hindi mapagkatiwalaan? Napakamatapobre mo naman yata. Siguro isa kang mayaman, at nandidiri ka lang sa mga tulad naming mahirap, kaya ayaw mo na mayroong mahirap sa PMA, kaya gusto mo pagbayarin ng tuition ang mga kadete. Compare that to rich people who can't stop being too greedy and abusing their influence to get what they want. Kahit maraming maghirap or masagasaan, basta sila, yumaman pa lalo.



fatbat_mca	Dec 24 2008, 09:23 AM Post #28
Member Posts: 700 Group: Regulars Member #5,317 Joined: December 22, 2008	:aberet: bravo sir icedman for putting it straight!
	oh my sofie!


KFIR	Jun 12 2010, 12:54 PM Post #29
Member Posts: 2,416 Group: Regulars Member #5,929 Joined: June 7, 2010	By paying the PMA a Tuition Fee then this will remove the mandatory requirement for its graduates to serve the AFP for at least 8 years. There will be no guarantee that the cadets trained by the PMA especially the good ones will serve in the AFP - they might end up being recruited by foreign militaries which can lead to a vacuum of brains and manpower needed to improve and strengthen the Philippine military.



caterwaul	Jan 29 2011, 03:25 PM Post #30
Member Posts: 384 Group: Regulars Member #51 Joined: July 30, 2004	as proven by Garcia, Reyes, Rabusa et al...the PMA is just being made by opportunistic leeches as a way towards prosperity and riches once they graduate and gain high positions in the AFP hierarchy. abolish the PMA or let the cadets pay tuition we taxpayers should not give them a free ride to attain their ambitions of acquiring immense wealth through plunder of the government coffers.



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