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Topic Started: Jul 15 2004, 10:12 AM (5,687 Views)
maniegom
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el_commandante
Aug 16 2006, 07:36 PM
To Maniegom:

Just a question. I saw on CNN, many israeli soldiers fighting in Lebanon are american citizens. Is this allowed under the US law?

El Commandante, all I know is that, that is their call and they will answer for it if it so happens to be against US law. It is a touch and go situation and US law has many loop holes just like ours.

The only diffrence is the wheel of their justice system is more exposed to the media world, that also helps it turn faster than our own. It will all depend on the law of the land to determine their actions. Your guess is as good as mine hard charger.
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Aug 16 2006, 07:24 PM
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Now if you think the present state of the PN is so bad, can you only imagine what it must be like for those Sailors we have serving right now, while you are comfortably viewing this?


i know of their plight, maniegom...and i also know that most of them serve under some men who went to the PMA and act as gods aboard ship...and even on dry land...officers nga pero definitely not gentlemen...tama ba yung sampalin mo ang isang enlisted man hanggang sa nabingi na sa isang tenga?...tama ba yung ikaw ang CO, your ship ran aground, tapos lahat hinigan mo ng pera para ipa-repair yung nasirang parte ng barko?...tama ba yung pinagbabawal mong mahigpit yung magdala ng babae aboard ship pero ikaw tatlong magkakasunod ang bitbit mo araw-araw ng tatlong buwan? :headbang:

I know where you are coming from with this. The experiences I go through here are definitely not that brutally physical or abusive. Although many don't realize that there are also such SOB's here based on their pay grade who think they can get away with so much. Some do, but definitely some don't based on those cases I had to deal with. I really have no mercy for bullies!

Where I am at, they do it more under the table than what we have back home... and it too is just as worse.
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"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei

“When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven’t got any.” - G. K. Chesterton

MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you.
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maniegom
Aug 16 2006, 08:06 PM
el_commandante
Aug 16 2006, 07:36 PM
To Maniegom:

Just a question. I saw on CNN, many israeli soldiers fighting in Lebanon are american citizens. Is this allowed under the US law?


El Commandante,

Don't you know that the IDF allows foreign citizens to fight for Israel as long as they're Jewish or a least pro-Israel? That's why Jews from all over Europe can come to enlist in the IDF.
While many of the immigrants to Israel since 1948 are already from all over Europe as a result of the Holocaust and the work of the UN that helped create Israel, more and more of the IDF's recruits were not born in Israel in the past 50 years. This includes a Jewish-American interviewed by Larry King on CNN, who is also a paratrooper for the IDF. Even if he is mostly a true-blue American (US-born, no Yiddish or Hebrew accent), he told Larry King he would come back to Israel to fight for them.

I also remember seeing a black crew member of an IDF Paladin crewman among those Paladins shelling the Gaza Strip more than a month ago. I know that there are a few blacks in the US who converted to Judaism, but that guy may have been Fasala (someone correct me?!).

Then there was that IDF General with a Polish-sounding name. Thus, the IDF is quite diverse.

Maniegom,

I'm a little confused about this other quote of yours:

"It is a touch and go situation and US law has many loop holes just like ours."

What do you mean by "ours"? If you mean by Filipinos "easily" joining the US military, I disagree. Please PM me to enlighten me on this, because I'd rather not hijack this good thread to express my past grievances at trying to join the US military because of citizenship reasons.

BTW, if you're already a USN sailor/veteran, I respect you, but I am at a loss why you wanted to join the AFP when you are a US citizen and thus have better opportunnities in the US miltiary.
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MSantor:

I think that is treason on the part of the American jews, many good and patriotic American soldiers are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. And yet these American Jews are fighting for another country, and the only thing they have in common is their Jewish religion.

US General John Abizaid, head of the Central Command is a Lebanese descent. He is fluent in Arabic. This brave man would definitely fight his fellow Lebanese had the United States come to the rescue of the embattled Israeli Defense Forces in Lebanon. "His country is the United States, right or wrong" :salute:


On another topic. The late black crooner Sammy Davis converted to Judaism. In Israel there are Peruvian converts to judaism, and they are more extremist than the native born Jews. There are even Vietnamese soldiers in the IDF! :wow:

Guys, did you see on ABS CBN a Filipina soldier in the IDF? She admitted that the mighty IDF suffered a serious setback in the inconclusive 34 day war with Lebanon.
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Aug 17 2006, 12:28 PM
maniegom
Aug 16 2006, 08:06 PM
el_commandante
Aug 16 2006, 07:36 PM
To Maniegom:

Just a question. I saw on CNN, many israeli soldiers fighting in Lebanon are american citizens. Is this allowed under the US law?


El Commandante,

Don't you know that the IDF allows foreign citizens to fight for Israel as long as they're Jewish or a least pro-Israel? That's why Jews from all over Europe can come to enlist in the IDF.
While many of the immigrants to Israel since 1948 are already from all over Europe as a result of the Holocaust and the work of the UN that helped create Israel, more and more of the IDF's recruits were not born in Israel in the past 50 years. This includes a Jewish-American interviewed by Larry King on CNN, who is also a paratrooper for the IDF. Even if he is mostly a true-blue American (US-born, no Yiddish or Hebrew accent), he told Larry King he would come back to Israel to fight for them.

I also remember seeing a black crew member of an IDF Paladin crewman among those Paladins shelling the Gaza Strip more than a month ago. I know that there are a few blacks in the US who converted to Judaism, but that guy may have been Fasala (someone correct me?!).

Then there was that IDF General with a Polish-sounding name. Thus, the IDF is quite diverse.

Maniegom,

I'm a little confused about this other quote of yours:

"It is a touch and go situation and US law has many loop holes just like ours."

What do you mean by "ours"? If you mean by Filipinos "easily" joining the US military, I disagree. Please PM me to enlighten me on this, because I'd rather not hijack this good thread to express my past grievances at trying to join the US military because of citizenship reasons.

BTW, if you're already a USN sailor/veteran, I respect you, but I am at a loss why you wanted to join the AFP when you are a US citizen and thus have better opportunnities in the US miltiary.

You want me to PM you when it is you who has a question....read some more because I already explained it and excuse you! Who on earth do you think you are "TARGET"?
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Maniegom,

No need for a hostile tone. Just asking a question.

No need to spoil a perfectly good thread.

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at least 4 Multi-role frigates like Blohm & Voss Meko D delta or dutch Flexible Support Ship concept

at least 8 CSAR / ASW,ASuW multirole,multi-mission, medium weight, long range helicopter MH-60S or H-92 Superhawk or EH101 or NH90

?? additional LSV's

4 naval mine sweeper

4 214 Attack Submarines if heaven is kind to us.

the rest ..give CC something to do :) .


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at least 4 Multi-role frigates like Blohm & Voss Meko D delta or dutch Flexible Support Ship concept

at least 8 CSAR / ASW,ASuW multirole,multi-mission, medium weight, long range helicopter MH-60S or H-92 Superhawk or EH101 or NH90

?? additional LSV's

4 naval mine sweeper

4 214 Attack Submarines if heaven is kind to us.

the rest ..give CC something to do :) .

the support ship id Danish and the German subs are worth €4 billion each... That we would never afford...
"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei

“When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven’t got any.” - G. K. Chesterton

MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you.
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