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Philippine Predator (with pix)
Topic Started: Aug 13 2006, 07:14 PM (4,786 Views)
jammerjamesky
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Have you noticed the picture? same on what posted by our fellow comrade.

I-GNAT
General Atomics Aeronautical Systems

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The GNAT systems offer the combination of long endurance (over 40 hours), large payload capacity, ease of use and low maintenance while providing a very low cost-per-flight-hour. The I-GNAT is an improved version of the original GNAT-750 and is designed to takeoff and land conventionally from any hard surface. GNAT aircraft systems are in operation with U.S. and foreign customers.

Capabilities:

Proven on numerous combat area deployments
Operational with U.S. and foreign governments
Operated out of 16 sites worldwide
Proven performance to 25,000 ft (7620m)
Over 40 hr endurance
EO/IR payload with SAR, ECM, ESM, options

http://www.uav.com/products/ignat.html
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spearhead
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flipzi
Aug 14 2006, 09:03 AM
spearhead
Aug 13 2006, 09:19 PM
Its ours.  :fire:

Stop dreaming. It's not ours. This is what the US has claimed they are using in helping the AFP track the ASG in Sulu.

Look at those two guys in the photo. They arent even Pinoys.

as comrade manokski said, its ours but being operated by the US (in behalf of RP).

actually, that photo shows a couple of americans (part of about a dozen american military advisers) were showing us how to use it. :rifle:
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato

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flipzi
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R-A-T-S

Combining Manokski's info and your observation ...plus the question why the aircraft remained "unmarked" when the photo was taken,... it might indeed be one of ours.

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gemini1
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Have you noticed the picture? same on what posted by our fellow comrade.[/color]

Thats because they really are the same.

The Army's I-Gnat ER UAVs are actually much closer related to the Predator than the I-Gnat! The I-Gnat ER is essentially a Predator aircraft without the SATCOM antenna and the associated bulbous nose fairing. The distinction between the Predator and Gnat lines seems to be not quite clear.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/gnat.html
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spearhead
Aug 14 2006, 10:29 PM
flipzi
Aug 14 2006, 09:03 AM
spearhead
Aug 13 2006, 09:19 PM
Its ours.  :fire:

Stop dreaming. It's not ours. This is what the US has claimed they are using in helping the AFP track the ASG in Sulu.

Look at those two guys in the photo. They arent even Pinoys.

as comrade manokski said, its ours but being operated by the US (in behalf of RP).

actually, that photo shows a couple of americans (part of about a dozen american military advisers) were showing us how to use it. :rifle:

I didnt say that. I said it might be ours. Big difference. The truth is I dont know anything beyond the fact that there are two currently registered. Whether that is even true could even be considered a state secret. Anything else beyond those facts are pure speculation at this point. If it were true, I would certainly tell people.
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Wardog
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Could be ours. Those Caucasian gentlemen could be technicians here to teach the locals how to operate the UAVs. :thumb:
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flipzi
Aug 15 2006, 08:42 AM
Combining Manokski's info and your observation ...plus the question why the aircraft remained "unmarked" when the photo was taken,... it might indeed be one of ours.

:thumb:

You know now that Manokski has just corrected me, so to make things safe, it COULD be ours, and i HOPE. :drunk:
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato

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are UAVs really effective in our kind of terrain, di ba there was a report before that Predators operated by the americans in Basilan failed to pinpoint the movements and locations of ASG terrorists because of the dense forest cover?
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phichanad
Aug 13 2006, 07:14 PM
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Is this Predator with the Philippine or US Armed Forces??

jammerjamesky
Aug 14 2006, 10:03 PM
Have you noticed the picture? same on what posted by our fellow comrade.

I-GNAT
General Atomics Aeronautical Systems

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gemini1
Aug 15 2006, 09:58 AM
Thats because they really are the same.

The Army's I-Gnat ER UAVs are actually much closer related to the Predator than the I-Gnat! The I-Gnat ER is essentially a Predator aircraft without the SATCOM antenna and the associated bulbous nose fairing. The distinction between the Predator and Gnat lines seems to be not quite clear.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/gnat.html

This is just a ‘vanilla’ GNAT. Look at the ER pics here. If you look at the rear end, the ER has an intake on the top of the fuselage, while this bird has one on the side like in jammer’s pic. Also, if you look at the center of the fuselage, the Andrews bird has a prominent ram air intake ahead of an access panel. On both the ER and jammer's pic, you can just make out a teeny-weeny one on the panel itself. These are not birds of the same feather.

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Looking at the reference gemini1 provided, the ER took elements of the Predator’s avionics system, primarily to convert it into a demi-UCAV with missiles. Obviously, it did not adapt the Predator’s airframe.

Perhaps the Phil. govt. does own Predator UAVs, but the Andrews UAV is not a Predator UAV. Registering something means listing exact details, registering an I-GNAT as a Predator is like registering a Corolla as a Lexus with the DMV.

On the other hand, registering something doesn’t necessarily mean actually owning it. That the Predators are supposed to be listed with the Civil Registry only means these are primarily-operated-within or at least cleared-to-operate in Philippine airspace, so these could easily be American birds ‘flown’ by American technicians. Note that some foreign airlines register planes here, but that hardly means these are owned by Filipino companies. A popular analogy would be ships registered under certain country’s flags, example there are thousands of Nigerian-flag vessels but the vast majority of these aren’t owned by Nigerian companies.

Nevertheless, close enough. Good aircraft ID job there, jammerjamesky. :armycheers:

Just passing by… :crawling:


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If they want procure a PREDATOR, they must choose the armed one with missiles on it. In that way when they see the ABU SAYAFF, they can eliminate on it on sight, in that we reduce casuality on our side and kill the terrorist with NO PROBLEM. :patrioticpinoy:
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