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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 30 2006, 07:55 PM (2,684 Views) | |
| City Hunter | Mar 30 2006, 07:55 PM Post #1 |
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On the other forum, there's a topic wherein a said old document states that the Philippines has successfully launched an underwater missile of its design from its submarine. It is a given fact that the late Pres. Marcos was interested in purchasing submarines for our Navy and there was a local project to develop missiles. Have we indeed gone as far as having our own submarine armed with our own developed missile? I'd like to ask if any of the members here have a copy of the said document. It would greatly help in my report not only to Sen. Pimentel but also to GMA herself (sana di mainip sa sobrang revision na kailangan ko gawin). |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| City Hunter | Mar 30 2006, 07:58 PM Post #2 |
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in the old forum, a poster mentioned that MGB of channel 4 did a TV special on the missile program of the philippine navy , and the poster mentioned that the missile program included the firing of submarine launched missiles. well, if you find that hard to believe, this was supported later on when mblt6 posted scans of the official report of the PN missile program that mentioned succesful test firing from underwater of the missiles, and this is from the official Govt report ! I wish MBLT6 would post again that report for all the newer posters to be surprised and astounded. From Sir Pachada's post. There are also mentions of SAMs and Kfirs (which I can state as real - then. No idea now if they still are with us) in various locations and some even in our province - Palawan. I guess I have to dig up my sources there if they heard any of such tales there of missiles and Kfirs. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| City Hunter | Mar 30 2006, 08:02 PM Post #3 |
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Sorry if I have to use posts from the other forum. Had to dig up fast confirmations and more info on these new revelations before I send my first draft (hopefully by this weekend or Monday). |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| jammerjamesky | Mar 31 2006, 09:01 AM Post #4 |
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Do we have a bomb shelter for our air craft? Coz keeping this machine for so long is not an easy task. Although Israel offer the Kfir's but no real documents was revailed. About the HAWK SAMS, AIM-9 from F-5 and AGL was an open secret. HAWK SAMS was counted as part of philippine defense arsenal because the US base presence before. But up to now no further documents will show full detail its presence. But im Sure there was an ammunition bunker facility in Clark constructed by FILDRAVO in the 90's for PAF/AFP. im not sure what it looks like but it was a huge construction. AGL was already part of the reserve for the AFP. Although we cannot see those fire arms oftenly. Reserve purposes as of now. AIM-9 from F-5 was also in storage for safe keeping. If we wanted to utilize this for defense mechanism this might be re design to serve a SAM. But the Macoy era has a lot of secret development. When the Wallace Air Station was turned over to the PAF, the air station has also a missile testing and launching area. Some of the personnel say they were also turned over to our PAF in the 90's. But im not sure for the presence of this materials. But the development of the missile was advocated by the former navy commodore for being a scientist and falg officer. There are some documents about this. |
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| City Hunter | Mar 31 2006, 11:23 AM Post #5 |
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Thanks for the info, Sir jammerjamesky. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| kenjisan | Apr 1 2006, 12:40 PM Post #6 |
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Sir City Hunter, there's an article in the Panorama Magazine about the construction of the headquarters of Naval Forces South in Zamboanga. There were pictures accompanying that article. One was a birdseye view fo the pier with a patrol craft. Another was a building dubbed as Malacanang of the South. Then there was a close up picture of an enlisted man climbing up what looked like PLDT man-hole. The blurb under the picture states "an enlisted man exiting a submarine hatch". Since it was a close up picture, no other details can be seen. Perhaps you can check the microfilms of those old Panorama issues and cross-reference on who wrote those articles. Maybe this can shed some light on your quest for those mystery subs. |
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| SultanLapuLap | Apr 1 2006, 01:35 PM Post #7 |
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why don't you go to Fort San Felipe at the Cavite naval base. there is a static display there of a decommisioned Philippine Navy mini-wet submarine, the kind used by the Navy SWAGs(SEALs). basically the driver has to wear a wetssuit with SCUBA gear while driving the mini-sub underwater , hence the term wet-sub.. |
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| City Hunter | Apr 1 2006, 03:51 PM Post #8 |
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Sir kenjisan, would certainly take your advice once an opportunity presents itself. It also happens that a tenant of my mom-in-law happens to be working with the Manila Bulletin newspaper (hope she got that info correct). I'll certainly check those old Panorama articles once a positive feedback is received from the proposal I'm sending to GMA and the senator's I'm corressponding with. |
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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance. Gen. Eric K. Shinseki | |
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| phichanad | Apr 2 2006, 11:29 AM Post #9 |
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i'll confirm the wet mini-submarine....i've seen one before, its like a torpedo with 2 seats at the top.... |
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| israeli | Apr 3 2006, 08:00 PM Post #10 |
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could that mini-submarine be the one owned by SABIT... errr... Chavit Singson?
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