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NBI Special Unit?
Topic Started: Mar 5 2006, 01:24 AM (2,518 Views)
groundpounder	Mar 5 2006, 01:24 AM Post #1
Trainee Posts: 68 Group: Regulars Member #240 Joined: December 16, 2004	Since there is a thead about PNP SAF and SWAT, is there a special unit of the NBI, like their own swat team like the FBI Hostage Rescue Team.



sru99	Jun 2 2008, 08:25 PM Post #2
Trainee Posts: 93 Group: Regulars Member #4,686 Joined: May 23, 2008	believe me sir sobrang well armed mga NBI buddies natin..may budget for ammos..gun..tactical gears..sarap maging NBI talaga....at civillian clothing pa..hay
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adrian_yamato	Jun 21 2008, 03:31 PM Post #3
Member Posts: 908 Group: Regulars Member #2,812 Joined: August 4, 2007	groundpounder Mar 5 2006, 01:24 AM Since there is a thead about PNP SAF and SWAT, is there a special unit of the NBI, like their own swat team like the FBI Hostage Rescue Team. I think it will patterned after the FBI-ATF.
	"There's only one Government, one Armed Forces, one Contitution, & one Filipino people" -word of then Gen. Angelo T. Reyes during the Mindanao war against the MILF & Abu Sayaff- "The Army is like a cooked Spaggetti, You can't push it, you have to pull it after you" -Gen George S. Patton-


flipzi	Jun 22 2008, 11:24 AM Post #4
R-A-T-S Posts: 7,803 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	sru99 Jun 2 2008, 08:25 PM believe me sir sobrang well armed mga NBI buddies natin..may budget for ammos..gun..tactical gears..sarap maging NBI talaga....at civillian clothing pa..hay Dapat lng naman. They should get their own choppers and APC as well. There was a case wherein an NBI team was to serve a warrant against a PNP station comdr. The NBI failed to fulfill its mission since the officer's men prevented the NBI team from entering the station at "nagkatutukan na lang". In the end, yung pulis officer nagsabi na sa CRAME n lng daw siya susuko. Seemed like diniktahan yung NBI ng abusadong pulis. Kung ako lang yung Mayor nuon. Palulusob ko RSAU. Di pupwede magmatigas sa batas. Kung may kaso ay harapin mo. Di pupuwede na yumuko pa sa yo ang batas. Problem was outgunned yung NBI. Kaya with the APC and the choppers, the NBI may finally get more strength to serve its duty upon anyone who violates the law.
	" Sovereignty resides in the people and all government authority emanates from them! - Art. II Sec 1, Philippine Constitution " " People don't care what we know until they know we care. " getflipzi@yahoo.com


Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jun 22 2008, 08:58 PM Post #5
PDFF Moderator Posts: 4,955 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	Seems that there was a lapse of protocol on the serving of the Warrant of Arrest. The NBI should have coordinated with the PNP hierarchy in Camp Crame before attempting to serve the Warrant in the same manner as these two outfits coordinated with each other in other normal cases of operation. During my time there was an existing Memorandum of agreement between the two law enforcement agencies outlining guidelines to be strictly followed when investigating or serving arrest warrants involving elements of both organizations to prevent hostilities and confrontation.
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flipzi	Jun 23 2008, 05:19 PM Post #6
R-A-T-S Posts: 7,803 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	Could you tell us more about this MOA, Sir TOPP?
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Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jun 23 2008, 06:46 PM Post #7
PDFF Moderator Posts: 4,955 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	I could no longer recall the full text of that mutual agreement between the two agencies. However, the purpose is to observe proper coordination so that overlapping of task and function can be avoided. Ex. The PNP cannot just barge or storm into any office of the NBI to serve a Warrant of Arrest to any of it's members without official coordination with the Chief or head of the administrative Division and vice-versa. As I mentioned, the prime purpose is to avoid any untoward hostilities and confrontation. Depending on the aftermath of the protocol, the subject of the WA will be surrendered or brought before the the court by his superior officer or by the arresting officer depending on what is mutually agreed.
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jedi knight	Jun 24 2008, 02:44 PM Post #8
Member Posts: 515 Group: Regulars Member #618 Joined: December 6, 2005	flipzi Jun 22 2008, 11:24 AM Dapat lng naman. They should get their own choppers and APC as well. There was a case wherein an NBI team was to serve a warrant against a PNP station comdr. The NBI failed to fulfill its mission since the officer's men prevented the NBI team from entering the station at "nagkatutukan na lang". In the end, yung pulis officer nagsabi na sa CRAME n lng daw siya susuko. Seemed like diniktahan yung NBI ng abusadong pulis. Kung ako lang yung Mayor nuon. Palulusob ko RSAU. Di pupwede magmatigas sa batas. Kung may kaso ay harapin mo. Di pupuwede na yumuko pa sa yo ang batas. Problem was outgunned yung NBI. Kaya with the APC and the choppers, the NBI may finally get more strength to serve its duty upon anyone who violates the law. huh? we must understand the function of the NBI, investigate, prosecute and convict. the heavy weapons are there just in case. I don't see the point of giving them APCs and Choppers, they are not a mechanized infantry unit.



flipzi	Jun 24 2008, 05:46 PM Post #9
R-A-T-S Posts: 7,803 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #71 Joined: August 8, 2004	Sir TOPP, Thanks for the clarification. Jedi Knight, that's if in case the PNP officer disobeys the rule of law even if there's been the required PNP-NBI coordination. the APC and choppers (not attack choppers but simply police choppers) will also be used when arresting teros and big-time syndicates like the well armed KFR and bank robbers.
	" Sovereignty resides in the people and all government authority emanates from them! - Art. II Sec 1, Philippine Constitution " " People don't care what we know until they know we care. " getflipzi@yahoo.com


Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP	Jun 24 2008, 06:34 PM Post #10
PDFF Moderator Posts: 4,955 Group: PDFF Mod Group Member #283 Joined: January 7, 2005	The reason why the NBI has no gears like the choppers, APC, and other military style assets or gadgets is because they are the elite civilian law enforcers in the field of investigation & prosecution of high profile cases and they are not the front-line law enforcers who are dealing with all types of criminalities in a day-to-day basis like the role of the PNP. However, the NBI can at anytime request for back-up from the police and the military depending on the urgency of their operation, and there are also instances where there is a joint NBI & Police operation depending on the requirements of the mission.
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