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Self-Reliance Defense Posture survey; Describe and name your Pinoy aircraft
Topic Started: Feb 15 2006, 06:47 AM (2,583 Views)
Marschall
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Hey spearhead so do you know someone working for this govt. modernisation plan?
What about building rotary aircraft on our own to replace th OV-10 bombers. they could be very useful and are cheaper to develop produce. Giving them some AAMs or anti-ship-missiles would even improve their capability and help us have a low-cost patrol force. I#d name some of them "paniki" for some should attack only by night to prevent themselves from being visually spotted by the enemy before the attack.
I agree with the idea of improving the F-5s and using them for research and experimental purposes on our way to building our own jets. In the meantime we should start developping and building our own rotary wing-crafts as i have mentioned before. These could also be armed with locally built rockets for attacks against the rebels in our country. These crafts would also give us knowledge on aerodynamics and maybe on how to build bigger planes someday such as the C-130 hercules. We could build smaller ones and use them as AWACS planes with radar from other countries. All in all this would mean less costs and more jobs for our beloved republic. :patrioticpinoy:
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Here's a design for VTOL fighter:

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Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance.

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Marschall
Feb 21 2006, 04:52 AM
Hey spearhead so do you know someone working for this govt. modernisation plan?
What about building rotary aircraft on our own to replace th OV-10 bombers. they could be very useful and are cheaper to develop produce. Giving them some AAMs or anti-ship-missiles would even improve their capability and help us have a low-cost patrol force. I#d name some of them "paniki" for some should attack only by night to prevent themselves from being visually spotted by the enemy before the attack.
I agree with the idea of improving the F-5s and using them for research and experimental purposes on our way to building our own jets. In the meantime we should start developping and building our own rotary wing-crafts as i have mentioned before. These could also be armed with locally built rockets for attacks against the rebels in our country. These crafts would also give us knowledge on aerodynamics and maybe on how to build bigger planes someday such as the C-130 hercules. We could build smaller ones and use them as AWACS planes with radar from other countries. All in all this would mean less costs and more jobs for our beloved republic. :patrioticpinoy:


I dont really personally know them, but id say, business contacts. Im aware about their plans and project proposals though.

Damn, if i only know them that close, i would really be able to totally influence them with all my dreams hehehehe.

Well atleast its an honor for me to take surveys, its good enough and im happy for it.

Anyway, its true that we need rotary aircrafts instead of those more expensive designs but with tougher looks these days.

Actually, my aircraft designs with VTOL capabilities maybe altered with "Fan engines" instead of those monster eating fuel engines.

Practically speaking, right now we might still face some uncertaint :patrioticpinoy: ies ahead instead of brighter tomorrows. Not unless this political unrest stops, we will regain our momentum in building our future AFP. Therefore, we still need to focus on our first phase of modernization like the upgrading of our existing military hardwares and the procurement of some modern fightersand other aircrafts in a few years. The survey is still there though and it will not gonna leave us. So keep imagining people.

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Feb 22 2006, 09:19 PM
Here's a design for VTOL fighter:

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The first photo is still a possible. The second is a bad idea.

The Philippines really need to design and build a troop aircraft with a VTOL capabilities. My actual "Berdugo" design has a similar Directional Jump-Jet Engines installed at both wingtips with the wings kind of bended upwards, and a third one is at the tail. My main reason why im against in rotary designs because its bulkier, unlike the jump-jet, it is more versatile and yet can be more powerful than the rotary aircrafts with a foldable wings for better parking space. Because jump-jets are basically jet engines with a powerful rocket-fuelled quick launch capabilties instead of a rotary, that rotary aircraft may even be exposed to riskier environment and easier to shoot down even by a shoulder-fired rocket-proppelled grenades because they move slower than aircrats with jet engines.

It maybe more expensive to maintain but more reliable and a good investment too. Just imagine a "Berdugo" gunship/ VTOL aircraft like an F-15, instead of carrying heavy weapons, it carries troops, and instead of conventional jet engines, the Berduo has directional jump-jet engines. Philippines can have atleast a dozen of these type of troop aircrafts that can be deployed faster, and can be also modified with a similar type of armour as of the U.S. F-10 Warthog armed with gatling gun at the nose-tip and that can sustain some rocket-explosion or even direct-hit RPGs.

I think its possible. And if its God's willing, Philippines can become a first nation that can design a troop-aircraft with VTOL/Directional Jump-Jet capabilities and a better armour to protect the troops, and sell it to the international market.

:pistols: :patrioticpinoy:
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Isn't that Kurt Tank's WWII VTOL fighter design/concept? That thing's wings are supposed to be continuously moving throughout vertical and horizontal flight.
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Iisa lang yun 2 pix ng WW2 German VTOL fighter. FOCKE-WULF TRIEBFLUGEL VERTICAL ATTACK X-PLANE ang tawag.
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Another VTOL concept na mukhang mas madaling gawin at paliparin. Sorry kung masyadong eye-candies mga pix.
Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance.

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Pwede na rin ba ito?
Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance.

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Pwede na rin ba ito?

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Osprey? Bakit bibili pa tayo, gumawa na lang tayo as luma na ang design.
Command is about authority, about appointment to a position. Effective leadership is different. It must be learned and practiced in order for it to rise to the level of art. You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment but you cannot lead without it; and without leadership, command is a hollow experience. .. a vacuum often filled with mistrust and ignorance.

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Why not just build a huge helicopter? something like the chinook just 4X bigger. That would be easier coz we don't have to try out all the things with the tilt-wings.
"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei

“When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven’t got any.” - G. K. Chesterton

MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you.
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