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| US Vietnam intelligence 'flawed'; cause to declare war on Vietnam | |
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| saver111 | Dec 6 2005, 05:07 PM Post #1 |
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US Vietnam intelligence 'flawed' Newly-released US documents suggest the US escalated the war in Vietnam based on skewed intelligence. The documents cast doubt on the existence of an attack on a US warship by the North Vietnamese in the Gulf of Tonkin on 4 August 1964. The incident prompted President Lyndon Johnson to ask Congress, in effect, to declare war on Vietnam. The revelations, released by the National Security Agency, were written by its own historian in 2001. Robert Hanyok declares his review of all the intelligence shows beyond doubt that "no attack happened that night". The USS Maddox had been attacked two days earlier. He claims errors were made in the translation of the intercepted signals from the North Vietnamese, and officials gave too much weight to flimsy evidence. But he clears President Johnson and his ministers of any blame. They were only shown intelligence supporting the claim of an attack, not a wealth of contradictory material, he says. Instead, he blames the intelligence-gathers. "They walked alone in their counsels," he wrote. Three days later, President Johnson asked Congress to empower him to take "all necessary steps" in the region, opening the way for a war that resulted in the deaths of 58,000 Americans and three million Vietnamese. The US government is said to have fought the declassification of the documents over fears of comparisons with the handling of Iraq, says the BBC's defence and security correspondent Rob Watson. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4492190.stm
S#%&! Talk about blunders!
Who wouldn't! 
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| Wushu | Dec 7 2005, 03:02 PM Post #2 |
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i've read about this..... i think one story goes that there were a series of commando-like attacks by God-knows-who of north vietnamese facilities.... so the north went nuts and sent out search parties to look for the attackers.... and what did they find? the maddox sitting quietly near one of the sites of the attack..... from this point on, accounts varied.... some say the north vietnamese boats attacked, some said they didn't.....  but it was established that there were attacks made by someone against the north vietnamese during the maddox incident.....it was also found out that many north vietnamese military advisers were against fighting the americans because they feared its military might, contrary to popular belief that the north was spoiling for a fight with the yankees.... also, some american military hawks wanted to start a war with north vietnam because they wanted to show the soviet union that they can beat to a pulp one of their major allies...... |
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