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| icefrog | Nov 16 2012, 11:50 PM Post #21 |
 
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The current AF is already a de-facto academy. I'm not totally against it but as Hong Nam said, we don't lack people willing to become pilots. What we lack are planes. Even in trainer planes we are lacking. Our most advanced trainers are actually the new generation 18 SF-260s GMA bought. The rest of our trainers are the last generation SF260s w/c are 15 year old now and one unit crashed months ago w/c is a a sign that that fleet SHOULD be replaced soon. The rest are even older S211s and donations from Korea w/c really should not be used anymore for training. We need at least 18 digital-cockpit trainers like the KT-1 to serve as the next phase of training after the analog-cockpit SF-260. After KT-1, pilots needs to go to a jet-trainer like the YAk-130 or the T-50. After that the pilots can now go to a proper MRF. What's the use of a PAF Academy if the training stops at the SF-260s w/c are really not even considered basic trainers by some countries (including Italy) but as primary trainers. |
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| spearhead | Nov 17 2012, 12:00 AM Post #22 |
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I think they wouldn't establish the airforce academy without any enough trainers to support it anyways. It takes time to establish an airforce academy, the infrastructures, programs, and the manpower are all needed to be reorganized, built, and by that time baka nandyan na yung mga new LIFT aircrafts plus the ones they already have. They will sync everything first ofcourse, di naman pwede yung gagawa nalang sila ng isang academy na wala namang mga eroplano siguro di ba? Now the question, where are they going to place that planned academy, San Fernando in Pampanga, or the one in Batangas? BTW, if im not mistaken, i thought the PMA system is like a Level 1 basic military training for all aspiring naval officers, airforce pilots, and the army, with the available upgrades of their proficiencies. After all, our military personnels need to learn how to shoot and everything whether you aspired to be a pilot or a sailor. I think it's a good thing that everyone would go through PMA then Airforce Academy for all pilots for further flying proficiency to be a top gun. |
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| dewey | Nov 17 2012, 12:11 AM Post #23 |
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after pma comes the specialization. biro mo galing pma. you wouldnt get anything better than going and passing pma first before pursueing their dreams
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| pachador | Dec 1 2012, 01:11 PM Post #24 |
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the only good reason i can think of why some officials are persisting about this is that, it will, essentially create a budget item for the PAF academy, which means to full equip such an academy, trainer planes from prop to jet plus simulator will need to be purchased so in this context, the PAF academy is a brilliant idea. Any other reason would not make sense... so whether the economy is good or bad the PAF academy with all attendant facilities and equipment(trainers and simulators, even missile simulators, radar simulators, etc) will need to be budgeted for annually just like the venerable PMA. so kung ganun lang naman ang "secret" rationale nila, e di gumawa na lang rin sila ng navy academy para merong training ships, simulators for navigation, missiles, naval gunnery, radars , etc) Edited by pachador, Dec 1 2012, 01:13 PM.
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| dewey | Dec 2 2012, 01:04 PM Post #25 |
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thats a great idea actually pach. after pma, they go to the next academy that they want to go for specialization. esp that if dnd wants to modernize everything. the 1st thing that they should modernize is the schools / academy that the new soldiers / cadets go to. so that when they go to the field, they actually have a vast stock knowlege taken from their tech and academic training from the academies and could actually contribute right away now the problem would be money again. even if its already signed into a law that asks for specific budget to buy equipments, it will again be for nothing if grp has nothing to give. kaya dahan dahan lang and hope it will come |
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| wily_pest | Dec 8 2012, 03:21 AM Post #26 |
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i think pma should not be over emphasized. their alums have been known to conspire in negative ways. there are many good universities with very good graduates of high moral standing, specially those from Catholic schools. they should have equal opportunity with proper ROTC training to enter as commissioned officers and have the same opportunities to obtain high ranks. a good mix of graduates in the milt. is what AFP needs and generalship/ admiralty should not be an exclusive club of PMA grads. PAFFA's founding as exclusion from PMA is a good start. All the govt. needs now is a fraternity of PMA grads who will be in the market for AMRAAMs, ASRAAMs and other expensive devices. it's a good way of getting sanctioned by the USA, Canada and Europe for milt arms. This school will be a good mix of smart students. |
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| wily_pest | Dec 9 2012, 02:49 AM Post #27 |
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the pma is not even in the top 10 in ranking of philippine colleges and universities, nor is it in the top 500 in the world. only 4 phil. schools are in that list. to exclude the other schools from having the same opportunities as pma grads in the milit. especially in the generalship and admiralty is an exclusion of good potentially good officers doing good service for the country. gen. collin powell was the chairman of the joint chief of staff (which was the highest officer of the land) from the us army; in command in washington dc during the operation of one of the best feat in the annals of milt. history- the 'desert storm'. he graduated from the ccny with an rotc; served 2 tours in vietnam (crashed in a helo on 2nd tour saving his boss- the div. commander) and, became the state secretary on the 1st bush administration. one does not have to have a west point, or annapolis, or colorado springs degree to be able to serve admirably. i think the pma should compete with other schools in acceptance to the officer corps in the afp. with free tuition from the govt. as it is, the proof of their good academic standards should go on and on while competing with other graduates. as they say, "the proof is in the eating of the pudding." therefore it's not just in looks, but in the action that should prove a person's worth. this can only benefit the country. Edited by wily_pest, Dec 9 2012, 02:53 AM.
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| spearhead | Dec 9 2012, 10:34 PM Post #28 |
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I'm not surprised at all if PMA didn't make it even at top 500. The obvious reasons is that they only produce corrupt officials for the last 50 yrs. PMA graduates don't even get to use modern armaments and other military systems, no missile educations, no electronic warfare education, even if some of them get a piece of them, they didn't have anything to use. Ontop of this, they got nothing to show the world, the war against communism and terrorism still exists. So their skills can't be measured at this time. It's still an unfair world in PMA graduates. |
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| jvelarde | Jan 13 2013, 11:37 AM Post #29 |
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This idea for our own Air Force Academy is very, very brilliant. We are just creating another government bureaucracy. What the air force needs is a squadron or two of LIFT aircraft either the TA-50 or the M-346. |
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| wily_pest | Jan 24 2013, 11:22 AM Post #30 |
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also, in the advent of the milt. modernization, the phil. will need the best officers the country can afford. many bright graduates with degrees in the sciences, engineering plus those with software and computer engineering, computer science, trade and technical and with excellent communication skills in english, to run a high tech military such as the phil. is trying to achieve, there is all the more reason why this milt. should also look for officers from the best schools. i am not trying to disparage a great institution such as the pma, but in today's military, the technology that is in use can be best run by a selection of graduates from various schools. |
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