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| flipzi | Sep 7 2005, 12:04 PM Post #11 |
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Hazing when done right, strengthens brotherhood. When it is done wrong.... it turns any man into beast who recognizes anyone as its enemy! The Korean recruit massacred his own fellows because he firmly believed that those he murdered ... deserved that punishment. 
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| Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP | Sep 8 2005, 05:42 AM Post #12 |
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Hazing is a form of abuse promulgating the authority and superiority of the higher class cadets. This will not only affect the cadets phsically but also mentally, and this will go with them when they graduate up to the time they serve with the military. The effects are abuses committed against the public whom they have sworn to protect. It's just like an abused child who can become an abusive adult. |
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| maniegom | Sep 8 2005, 08:14 AM Post #13 |
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Hazing as I mentioned before can also be done in so many ways. It's not just the mere stories we've read or heard. One can just basically make you do anything that is meant to physically hurt or even mentally degrade a person. My best reminder when dealing with such cases is to merely ask the golden rule as a guide. |
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| saver111 | Sep 9 2005, 08:46 PM Post #14 |
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PMMA President, others charged with hazing PMMA President RADM Virginio Aris and seven other school officials have been charged before the Sandigan Bayan with violations of the Anti-hazing Law for the death of an 18 year old probationary midshipman during orientation rites at the PMMA campus in 2001. The orientation, however proved too much for the 18 year old Fernando Balidoy Jr.. He collapsed and PMMA physician pronounced him dead only a day after he reported at the PMMA due to cardio-respiratory arrest. But an autopsy later conducted by the PNP Crime Lab showed that he died from massive pulmonary hemorrhage. Further examination revealed the he also sustained injuries to his kidneys, spleen and pancreas. ----- Not in the PMA, but seems to be the practice in all academies.  The Philippine Star, 09 Sep 2005 The Manila Bulletin, 09 Sep 2005 |
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| flipzi | Sep 9 2005, 09:12 PM Post #15 |
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Like what i've said, when it is not done right it either kills people or turn them into beast later on. There are a lot of psychos out there, ... taking every opportunity to hurt people just for fun. These people are sick.  They are cowards who can only pick those who are defenseless. tsk tsk tsk. Another soul was wasted. For what reason? Brotherhood? Yeah, right!  |
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| Pendejo | Sep 10 2005, 10:05 AM Post #16 |
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I believe PMA has finally taken the bull by the horns when it comes to hazing. The fourthclass system ensures that 99% of hazing of the sadistic, physical and inhuman form takes place in two places. The cadet mess hall and the cadet barracks. The solution was simple. Separate the plebes during meals. Plebes eat in their own tables, upperclassmen eat in their own tables. Same with the barracks. Each class lives and sleeps in separate barracks. Upperclasmen and plebes only mix during formations, official functions and duties. The Fourthclass System was scrapped. It was started last year and it seems to have worked in curbing hazing. Whether the system will produce better officers or not remains to be seen. I personally think it has pussified the academy. |
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| Wardog | Sep 10 2005, 10:59 AM Post #17 |
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Times do change, and old goats like you Pendejo will have to bow to the changing times.  I'd rather have pussified cadets who would turn out to be honest and competent officers rather than toughie cadets who turned out to be greedy stealing and incompetent bastards. |
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| Pendejo | Sep 10 2005, 12:46 PM Post #18 |
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I hope so. |
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| jvelarde | Sep 20 2005, 10:47 AM Post #19 |
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Hazing will only produce brutes and askals. It will drive away (and has driven away) the best and the brightest away from the Academy leaving only the barakos and masochists. How can you attract the best high school kids to go to the PMA kung alam nila bugbog-sarado lang ang abot nila sa plebe year nila? The service academies in the US and in the West have, by and large, eliminated hazing. Dapat gayahin natin sila. What we need are cadets who do well in the academics especially math, science and English not goons who only excel in hazing. We have had hazing in the PMA since after WWII and maybe even before. Look at the officers it has produced. Look at the PMA now. |
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| flipzi | Sep 20 2005, 11:33 AM Post #20 |
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 Mabuti the PMA realized their mistake eventually. :thumb: |
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