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| seWer Rat | Aug 21 2005, 06:39 PM Post #1 |
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checked out their forum - at first it I though it is a forum for rock band groupies  http://www.pma.ph/ccafp/forum/index.php |
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| Tormentor | Aug 27 2005, 05:00 PM Post #2 |
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Made a recon of their forum and found out that: PMA cadets write lousy English! PMA English instructors should be hanged upside down. 
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| Pendejo | Aug 27 2005, 06:47 PM Post #3 |
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They write bad, their grammar is horrible. Their prose is akin to girls from third rate schools. |
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| Wardog | Aug 27 2005, 07:11 PM Post #4 |
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Ya, unlike previous batches...what went wrong? |
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| Pendejo | Aug 27 2005, 08:08 PM Post #5 |
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I treated them for lunch at CPK. Three turnedbacks applying with my company and looking for jobs. Two of them did not come from brand name schools and I did notice poor command of spoken English, likewise with Tagalog. They are, however, conversant in Taglish or what they referred to as "barok". They cannot write well either. Pretty much like most students today. Maybe the reason why companies advertise, "Wanted fresh graduates from UP, La Salle or Ateneo." This is probably a defect of the entire educational system though we should expect more from PMA. We spend P2.5 Million to produce just one graduate or in Tedak's speak, "gradweyt." Of course, I'm generalizing. Sanamagan. |
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| ctrlaltdel | Aug 27 2005, 08:18 PM Post #6 |
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whats the point? commands are given in tagalog anyway. i personally think its not the command of english for pma cadets that matter- it should be honesty, loyalty and integrity quite a lot of english-savvy officers we have but tragically, most do not possess the above attributes 
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| saver111 | Aug 27 2005, 08:30 PM Post #7 |
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 Even the President admitted that and required that English should be the mode of instruction in our educational system. One of the so-called advantage of our OFWs was our mastery of the English language, but now it is being challenge. They were being required to undergo short term courses for english proficiency. But imagine, these guys are College graduates. From kinder to College and yet, they have not mastered it. So many diploma mills came around and now being corrected and monitored by CHED. Some countries like China made their citizens to undergo English courses which became a threat to our OFWs. But the chinese upon learning the trade opted to go to other line of work. With that, they are also targetting the call centers which is very much helping our work force right now. I believe this was a set-back in one of our tendencies to be "nationalistic", which prove to be disastrous to our educational system than helpful. |
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| Pendejo | Aug 27 2005, 08:35 PM Post #8 |
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Then you must know know that preflight and operational briefings, at least in the air force are made in English. Commands are given in English, not in Tagalog. Radio messages are not made in Tagalog. Not all our soldiers can speak, much less write Tagalog. A significant number speak only Visayan or Ilocano. Perhaps you have never been assigned overseas or attended foreign schooling. English is the language of aviation not to mention the internet. For that matter, all our technical, operating and field manuals are in English. Our service schools use English as the medium of instruction. AFP memorandums, circulars, orders and announcements are made in English. Gosh, if you get court martialed, it will be in English. Even the CPP/NPA/NDF websites are in English. I have yet to see an artillery fire order written or transmitted in Tagalog. Nor have I seen an information systems manual in Tagalog. The Chinese are catching up on English. English speaking American born Chinese are being recruited en masse to teach the Chinese. The Philippines continues to lose it's edge as a direct result of scrapping English as medium of instruction in our schools. I hope our national leaders have learned their lessons well. Let's not be in denial, English is the language of progress, the internet, information technology and yes, civil and military aviation. Courage, Integrity and Loyalty matters. So does being a good communicator and being articulate. BTW, we had an air force officer who did not make it to schooling in Australia. Guess why? |
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| ctrlaltdel | Aug 27 2005, 08:36 PM Post #9 |
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why blame the educational system? pma cadets come from the top ranks of their respective schools, they take the tough entrance examination and if they pass, they also take several interviews and physical tests - theyre supposed to be the best so i conclude that the defect is within the pma system, maybe english is not very well emphasized during the instruction proces... |
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| Pendejo | Aug 27 2005, 08:44 PM Post #10 |
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pma cadets come from the top ranks of their respective schools Not necessarily true. Fact is, there are less and less valedictorians, salutatorians, honor students entering PMA. The best and the brightest opt to go elsewhere. PMA has taken pains to change all of that. This year they have raised the numerical grade average to qualify for cadetship to 85 from 80. An 80 academic average is a B-, that's not top rank. When your attrition rate is 65% it could mean that PMA has not been accepting high quality candidates. PMA Imposes 85% Gen Average of Cadet Applicants The Philippine Military Academy (PMA) raised its standard in accepting cadet applicants when it imposed a minimum high school general average of 85% as one of the qualifications in taking the PMA Entrance Examination set on August 28, 2005. The PMA had been implementing an 80% general average requirement since 2002. The change is among the many initiatives adopted by the Command to increase the number of graduates. In recent years, only an average of 35% graduate within four years. The main ground for cadets getting dismissed or “turned-back” (repeating a term) is poor academic performance. Other programs and reform measures are implemented to increase the survival or retention rate to at least 75%, the acceptable rate in US service academies. http://www.pma.ph/ I have high hopes that the trend will be reversed with changes being made. |
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