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Ideal Aircraft station in Pag-asa island
Topic Started: Jul 26 2005, 07:00 PM (6,323 Views)
Tora^2
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I disagree with the idea of putting emplacing comabt aircraft there on a long-term basis because it would further intimidate other claimants especially the Chinese. Besides, combat aircraft there are juicy targets for air and missile strikes.

If we do plan to put fighters on regular patrol in the area, Bautista is the better place to put them in. However, Pagasa can serve as an emergency landing strip for aircraft within that area.

Aside from Patrol planes, we should also station there SAR aircraft as well as Coast Guard patrol boats.

Further fortications like SAMs and even artillery won't hurt
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This will be my own simple interpretation how PAG-ASA island would be in the future.

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Im just using my personal experience on the structural construction and development.

Sensya na comrades u can still correct this proposal.Im glad if u could give your personal analysis also.
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i agree with sirs tora^2, israeli, and jammerjameski! as alos my proposal, only transport, patrol, SAR aircraft and helos should be assigned or based at pagasa island, if you based combat aircraft at the island you will eventually spark a an arms race within the area, not only china but from other claimants as well..

.. nice pictures sir jammerjameski! :thumb: also very good idea on the expansion of the said base. question: what are the small green circles outside pagsas island? are these auxillary watch station?

also, where should be the ideal location for AA/SAmdefence as well as artillery within the island? :thumb:
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i agree with sirs tora^2, israeli, and jammerjameski! as alos my proposal, only transport, patrol, SAR aircraft and helos should be assigned or based at pagasa island, if you based combat aircraft at the island you will eventually spark a an arms race within the area, not only china but from other claimants as well..

.. nice pictures sir jammerjameski! :thumb: also very good idea on the expansion of the said base. question: what are the small green circles outside pagsas island? are these auxillary watch station?

also, where should be the ideal location for AA/SAmdefence as well as artillery within the island? :thumb:
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.. nice pictures sir jammerjameski!  also very good idea on the expansion of the said base. question: what are the small green circles outside pagsas island? are these auxillary watch station


Those are special water sensor's and instruments (e.g. floating bouy's or other weather detection instrument's) that will be installed around the vicinity of the Pag-Asa Island.

My vision for the island also is not a purely Militarized since it was already declared as a tiny municipality in KGI area i want also the area to house a AFP/DOST controlled relay system for weather detection capability. NDCC/DOST/PAGASA currently tap its weather detection in the US in the Pacific region.Then South China Sea will be controlled by us given with enough fundings for equipment purchases.
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:agree: very good suggestion! actually that's also my suggestion, basing also civilian/gov't offices/institutions like pagasa and dost. also, good suggestion on the wind and solar generation plant, i didn't think of that before :thumb:

also some suggestion if its ok: include marine geology and marine life research personnel + hydrographic survey of KGI.

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So you got my idea also comrade page money. But this is just a proposal and our visions for the future of the Pag-Asa Island. I hope they will give some consideration and adopt our ideas for the future of this place.

The Geological Activity and Research Station for Marine and other related fields will be a permanent station. They will be under the AFP command but a DOST equipments.

About the Solar Energy Plant in the Island. All i wanted to use is the German Solar Panel Concepts. A very realiable new cell panels that are being tested.. and all the buildings here will be filled by solar panels. or a wind farm will be established in the island about 10 platforms..


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the idea to have the entire community and military outpost in Pagasa be powered by solar energy is great indeed. Pagasa could even be a model community in terms of using environmentally-friendly energy sources. :thumb:

there must be significant improvement in the capability to host military aircraft and naval vessels in Pagasa. aside from improving the existing airfield and control tower, there must be at least two hangars that can be used to hold military aircraft with a maximum size of a C-130 Hercules. there must also be a pier that can be used by vessels such as LCMs or LCUs, missile boats and patrol boats.

as for "defensive weapons", a number of upgraded M101 howitzers, anti-aircraft gun such as the RH-202 and the Zu-23, and several shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles must be provided to the soldiers posted in Pagasa and other Philippine-controlled islands. :fire:
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Nice effort sir jammerjamesky... :thumb:

well i dont disagree with you guys on your plans to repair, upgrade th defenses, base MPA's and Coast guard units in the post but for me i just dont want to put SO MUCH things in that small and isolated island aside from its role as a forward observation post because its very hard to defend in case of a full scaled attack..even if its ladden with AAG's and SAM's..the position is just too unstable.. imagine guys? i prefer putting our offensive assets in Palawan... well thats what i think of.. :dunno:
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jammerjamesky,

Your vision for making the small community Pag-Asa Island into a weather detection capability is such a wonderful idea with Naval and PAF detachment.

A good Radar installation will serve as a watchful eyes on our territorial interest as well some parts of the country.

Other concern is the position of Ammo bunker.

It seems the Ammo Bunker is surrounded by important facilities and buildings like housing, radar, hangar,joint command center, radar etc, etc. How deep underground your ammo Bunker??

HOw about putting SAM or Anti aircraft gun on top of those Multi Purpose building and Joint command center??

A small contingent of MRF base in that area should be housed in HARDENED HANGAR, with complete facilities to maintain the plane. Peace to all.







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