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| Royal Thai Navy and Philippine Naval cooperation?; considered? | |
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| israeli | Jun 5 2005, 11:04 PM Post #81 |
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ColdDeadFish: i am not stereotyping. what i just said is a mere expose of a truth that many of us Filipinos deny. also, i'm one of those same people who worked hard to make things happen but i'm starting to hate my fellow Filipinos who are apathetic to the needs of the country and are more concerned of themselves than of the interests of the country. ![]() now, can we just go back to the main topic which is cooperation between the Royal Thai Navy and the Philippine Navy?
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| SIRIKITTONG | Jun 5 2005, 11:29 PM Post #82 |
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That is what will be happening in CARAT 2005. Amphibious land attacks as well anti-piracy drills. A cooperation between Manila and Bangkok on anti piracy and anti-intrusion drills in Palawaan and Gulf of Thailand is a realistic possibility. We have talked about this before. lol. Malaysia would find this quite 'subjective' considering two nations that have border disputes with Malaysia 'teaming up' eh. lol. I would love to see the faces of the politicians in Kuala Lumpur at this.
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| SIRIKITTONG | Jun 5 2005, 11:30 PM Post #83 |
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This would is something we would not do; personally, I would want to. But the naval high command thinks differently.
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| SIRIKITTONG | Jun 5 2005, 11:33 PM Post #84 |
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Yes my filipino bros! Lets not stray of topic and have arguments, we must stay united. |
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| adroth | Jun 6 2005, 07:18 AM Post #85 |
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To our Singaporean friends. You have heard us Filipinos tell you this time and time again. Now you have a Thai echoing the same sentiment. Will you wait for an Indonesian to chime in before you realize that your self-promotion is merely a display of geopolitical ignorance? Yes you have much to be proud of, however, do not claim your success as being entirely your own. There were many fortunate circumstances that allowed your country to develop the way it has. If Singapore faced the same issues that other ASEAN countries grapple with, do you really think you would have advanced so far? Let us compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. The only country in Asia that Singapore can compare itself to is Taiwan. Now
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| SIRIKITTONG | Jun 6 2005, 09:45 AM Post #86 |
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Chai Mai! Well said my Filipino bud! Now let us get back to the topic. I have been talking to some of my collegues about possible Philippine and Thai cooperation near the isthmus of Kra; perfect place for anti-piracy and anti-smuggling operations; and also the region is quite similar to the pirate sprawn Tawi tawi group of the southern provinces of the Philippine Republic. It appears that I am not the only one that realizes the similar predicament Thailand is in; as is the Philippines is in. I understand that your southern provinces are being supplied by ammunition by paramilitar units in Sabah, Malaysia (I do not consider Sabah part of Malaysia since Sabah was under the rule of the Sultanate of Sulu, and if my Thai history is right, the Siamese court has full recognition of the existance of 'Krai Sulu', which we referred to the Sulu Kingdom. Sulu, as was the Brunei Sultanate were major trading partners with Ayuthaya/Siam for centuries. For the Malaysians to claim lands that were not theirs historically is absolute ridiculous. This is similar to the Malaysian claiming Patani, Songkla, and other southern Thai provinces) But as I said earlier, an increased Thai and Philippine cooperation near Tawi Tawi as well as in Isthmus of Kra would increase both our navies capability in catching smugglers and put a firm resolve to Kuala Lumpur that Bangkok and Manila mean business. You know, this truly reminds me of the conversation I had with a Lieut. Col. Prajeet Chulalokhon, Thai Army. We were discussing the recent incidents with Malaysia and Indonesia concerning those Sipadan island case. The fact of the matter is that most of ASEAN countries, particularly Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore and Brunei have problems with Malaysia. Malaysia likes to utilize Gun Boat diplomacy in that it likes to use force and show of thsi force agaisnt its weaker neighbours such as the Bruneians, and the Philippines and sometimes the Indonesians. However, as what Col Chulakhon mentioned that if Malaysia continues its path of aggression and imperialistic intentions in to daring enough to claim 4 provinces of the Kingdom of Thailand, which itself is a major military/economic power in SEA, it is also competing with SG in the naval aspects and continuing to irritate Indonesia as well as the Philippine Republic. It would be interesting of Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore made a 'punish Malaysia campaign' if relations continue to be bitter lol. I am sure that Philippines would love to retain Sabah back, as well as Brunei taking its land, Indonesia in taking th 2 islands back, Singapore would like to have an 'extra land' too as well as we Thais would like to see a 'weaker' Malaysia. Interesting concept, no?
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| horge | Jun 6 2005, 11:40 AM Post #87 |
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Now, now... For the same sort of reasons I presume the RTN High Command thinks ill of a Thai-Filipino joint naval exercise in the contested Spratlys.... Let's not go out of our way too often to provoke any Malaysian onlookers. That said... please carry on with the interesting discussion. :) |
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| gary1910 | Jun 6 2005, 11:57 AM Post #88 |
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LOL, first her assumption that SG is w/o any natural resources as well as small will bound to be doom!!! First thing that assumption is totally false, otherwise SG was already doom since independence but the history say otherwise. Below is the top 20th GDP per capita of the world in 2003: Luxembourg 1 45 778 $ Norway 2 42 222 $ Switzerland 3 36 828 $ United States 4 36 731 $ Ireland 5 32 105 $ Denmark 6 31 852 $ Japan 7 31 433 $ Iceland 8 29 897 $ Sweden 9 26 966 $ Netherlands 10 26 250 $ Great Britain 11 25 950 $ Austria 12 25 432 $ Finland 13 25 385 $ Germany 14 24 209 $ France 15 24 037 $ Belgium 16 23 981 $ Canada 17 23 484 $ Qatar 18 22 468 $ United Arab Emirates 19 21 576 $ Singapore 20 21 429 $ . Taiwan 29 12 533 $ . . Thailand 77 2 019 $ . Philippines 101 997 $ http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/infopays/rank/PIBH2.html Look at the list above , how many small and without natural resources nations have make it up there!?! Then she said the Brits poured million of dollars into SG , but have she realised then in 60s, the Brits themselves are in financial problem which later prompted them to pull out all their forces east of Suez(except Brunei & HK)? SG growth in 60~80s was lot of inflow of FDI, but did you guys asked yourself why SG, why not more in Thai ,Ph etc? Now there is inflow of FDI into China(large), ignoring the regional countries, why? Then also why SG is the busiest seaport in the world? One of best airport in the world and have the largest reserve in the world , why? All this are simply by hardwork, good governce etc, no one would pour money into a nation if that country is not the best investment opporturnnity!!!! How abt nation like Spain, UK, Israel, all of them face insurgency,but they still make it, why??? From the list above, for Thai to catch up with SG,GDP per Capita must grow at least 21 times. Anyway, I have show that her assumptions based on her gut feel, and nothing on historical facts as well as statistical, many small countries w/o natural resources has achieved remarkably for eg.Luxembourg,Ireland,Switzerland ,Iceland etc Why??? I can't predict what will happen in 20~30 years, but I will certainly not make baseless assumption!!! |
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| saver111 | Jun 6 2005, 12:07 PM Post #89 |
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To our Thai and Singaporean firends, have you ever heard of ASEAN? It's better to be united than pick on one another. |
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Justice for Daniel Lorenz Jacinto HELP END PIRACY NOW!: http://www.itfseafarers.org/petition.cfm | |
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| SIRIKITTONG | Jun 6 2005, 12:11 PM Post #90 |
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lol. I notice that I unfortunatley riled up many Singaporeans on this subject. Sir, I would like to say that this is totally OF THE TOPIC. I will spare a couple of words on this issue to address your post. First of all Luxembourg is a puny nation, with little or no influence in the world. Who has ever heard of Luxembourg? Does Luxembourg make policy? Affects internaitonal politics? No. It is of no concern to us on this matter; period. Swiss, its successful because it is a neutral state and one has to understand that it take all the millions of capital in bank reserve, no? There is no aggressor to Swiss, hence no loss of growth. Swiss is totally dependent on importation, not by itself. Same thing with Singapore, its very existance is in western investment and its importation of resources (not found in its border). That was my point. Singapore cannot exist by itself, she does not have the resources to do so. Understand? Please, next time when we have a discusison , do not make wront statements and offensive comments on other posters. I will end this discussion of 'singapore' now, it is totally of the topic. And I aggree with my filipino friends in here, if you do not wish to discuss with the topic, please leave the thread. I am irritated by the current digression. Also..remember that you're talking to a Lieutenant in the Royal Thai Navy. Thank You/Tai Chien/Salamat po/Kaph Koon. :thumb: |
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