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| possible | May 26 2005, 02:19 PM Post #31 |
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Manokski: i'm sorry too i guess i should have spoken more clearly the first time, sir. the PN better move fast if they're really interested, these boats are surely attracting a lot of inquisitive buyers. the Royal Thai Navy has 3 PRABRARAPAK-class MGBs which are almost identical to the Singapore SEA WOLF, they are likely our toughest competitor if ever. losing the missiles may be inevitable but it's a blessing in disguise since the PN then has the option of selecting something that really fits its strategy; for example, getting the HARPOON SSM makes sense because it's compatible with the SEA WOLF's radar, but the HARPOON is a jack-of-all trades system with a lot of compromises, an alternative might be Sweden's RBS15 Mk3 which is designed for true littoral warfare, Germany and Poland are the first export customers. as for AAW, a lightweight remote-controlled gun system like Singapore's own Naval Remote Weapon System, which can fire Oerlikon's Air Bursting Munition and can be mounted with SAMs like MISTRAL; or the PN can go for the best there is, which might be the awesome Oerlikon MILLENIUM revolver cannon; not sure if GOALKEEPER or KASHTAN can fit on SEA WOLF. SEA WOLF is the best choice and we should be behind the PN 100% on this one
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| israeli | May 26 2005, 03:43 PM Post #32 |
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Manokski: i'm happy that PN officials are at least doing something to bring the fleet up to "modern" standards but it will be much better if they will be able to bring Sea Wolf class FACs with missiles. ![]() perhaps we can seek Israeli assistance in getting more modern versions of the Gabriel SSM for the Sea Wolves if ever we will get them. of course, we will have no problems with the French if ever we will have Mistrals on the Sea Wolves.
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| 21Scorpio | May 26 2005, 04:06 PM Post #33 |
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"the PN better move fast if they're really interested, these boats are surely attracting a lot of inquisitive buyers. the Royal Thai Navy has 3 PRABRARAPAK-class MGBs which are almost identical to the Singapore SEA WOLF, they are likely our toughest competitor if ever. losing the missiles may be inevitable but it's a blessing in disguise since the PN then has the option of selecting something that really fits its strategy; for example, getting the HARPOON SSM makes sense because it's compatible with the SEA WOLF's radar, but the HARPOON is a jack-of-all trades system with a lot of compromises, an alternative might be Sweden's RBS15 Mk3 which is designed for true littoral warfare, Germany and Poland are the first export customers. as for AAW, a lightweight remote-controlled gun system like Singapore's own Naval Remote Weapon System, which can fire Oerlikon's Air Bursting Munition and can be mounted with SAMs like MISTRAL; or the PN can go for the best there is, which might be the awesome Oerlikon MILLENIUM revolver cannon; not sure if GOALKEEPER or KASHTAN can fit on SEA WOLF. SEA WOLF is the best choice and we should be behind the PN 100% on this one" Indeed a good start. PN should not let this opportunity go they should negotiate to get all those MGB's.
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| gary1910 | May 26 2005, 08:51 PM Post #34 |
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The PRABRARAPAK-class MGB were build by ST as well, after our MGBs, almost exactly the same as our MGB of the 70s, but according to sources, the Thai has already removed their time expired Gabriel w/o replacing them , so the Thai PRABRARAPAK-class are gun armed only. Our Sea Wolf class MGBs are completely different now compare to when they first launched. One thing, the boats has many local " black" technology like ECM , ECCM etc. I am not sure whether we will release them to PN. Anyway, all 6 Formindable class stealth frigate will only be commissioned by 2009, so there is still few year before we retired our MGBs. |
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| edwin | May 30 2005, 06:24 AM Post #35 |
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Question guys, If ever PN is successfull to let the Singaporeans transfer their Sea Wolf class without those mighty armaments like harpoons, Gabriel,Mistral., is their any possibility that they(singapore) will also take out those important/advanced electronics or sensor suite(ECM, ECCM, radar) that guide those missiles?? What I mean is downgrade the ship. I hope PN will negotiate to include the missiles. Peace to all. |
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| SIRIKITTONG | May 30 2005, 12:55 PM Post #36 |
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Very nice acquisition to the PN. |
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| spiderweb6969 | May 30 2005, 11:14 PM Post #37 |
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Do you have photos of PRABRARAPAK-class MGBs? Both the earlier version armed with Gabriel and the latest one believed to be without missile? I really appreciate it. One more thing, any Thai military forum i can go visit? I need to see more photo of thailand's weapon. |
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| SIRIKITTONG | May 31 2005, 07:21 AM Post #38 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() If you want to visit Thai military forums, go here: http://www.tmb.co.th/merger2/eng/aboutus/board.html http://www.tmb.co.th/merger2/index_th.html http://www.rta.mi.th/ http://www.rtaf.mi.th/ http://www.navy.mi.th/ Look into these sites to see more specs; but the problem is it is in Thai script lol. There some English versions so good luck! Cheers my Filipino friends. |
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| gary1910 | May 31 2005, 12:49 PM Post #39 |
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![]() The above picture is form SG' mindef website, it is the Sea wolf class. |
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| spiderweb6969 | May 31 2005, 10:43 PM Post #40 |
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thanks for the link, by the way i'm interested on the thai PRABRARAPAK-class MGBs not our Sea Wolf that you posted. |
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