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| Sea Wolves; Orbat Updates re Sea Wolves | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 24 2005, 02:00 PM (10,047 Views) | |
| spiderweb6969 | May 25 2005, 10:36 PM Post #21 |
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| spiderweb6969 | May 25 2005, 10:39 PM Post #22 |
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| possible | May 25 2005, 10:51 PM Post #23 |
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War. What is it good for?--James Brown What's love got to do with it?--Tina Turner Only the intelligent are brave. | |
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| spiderweb6969 | May 25 2005, 10:51 PM Post #24 |
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The Bofors 40mm/70 at the aft is already been replaced with Mistral (twin launcher) SAM, the photo i posted shows the Sea Wolf Class from the 1970's to year 2005 (manoks orbat). The changes is so extensive that you can see how it transformed from the one with only guns to SSM (1st with Gabriel, later Harpoon is added) and Mistral SAM. |
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| gary1910 | May 26 2005, 01:46 AM Post #25 |
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RSN's MGB at it's present configuration is considered to be most potent ship for it's size. Mistral for anti-aircraft as well as anti-missile roles.That was installed due to GW1 where Iraqi Navy was totally destroyed by all kind of missiles. Gabriel SSM (25km)for short range surface engagement especially in litorial waters Harpoon SSM with active radar guidance for long range OTH (140km)open sea engagement. Lastly 57mm gun for limited anti surface & air engagement. Even it was constantly upgraded and still very potent, RSN still need to upgrade with better ships with respect to the limited manpower, thus retirement of this class. I believe at it's present form , many navies will certainly don't mind having them. |
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| edwin | May 26 2005, 07:26 AM Post #26 |
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Better for the PN to continue acquiring those Patrol Killer Boats or Sea dolphin Class from Korea, rather than buying Sea Wolf Class minus its armaments. Peace to all. |
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| Manokski | May 26 2005, 08:08 AM Post #27 |
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I guess we are both right but I guess that I did not explain myself properly. What I meant was the 57mm chosen by the coast guard & USN is a newer development of this gun, but it is basically the same gun incorporating improvements in stealthiness and operability. That said, thanks for the correction. |
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| israeli | May 26 2005, 09:05 AM Post #28 |
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Manokski: is there any official word from the Philippine Navy regarding the intention of getting the Sea Wolf class FACs from Singapore? :?: again, if we are to buy those Sea Wolf, BUY THE SHIPS ALONG WITH THE MISSILES!
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| "To secure peace is to prepare for war." - Carl Von Clausewitz | |
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| Manokski | May 26 2005, 12:31 PM Post #29 |
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All I can say is that the news was given by an official source. PN officials including the Chief of Naval Staff and officials from the Modernization Office actually inspected some boats. How official do you want or can you get? That said, it is a negotiation. It is up to Singapore to sell it or transfer it to us and of course, the price has to be right. As for the missiles, SQ is using the harpoons elsewhere and they cannot transfer the missiles without US approval (third party sale is prohibited). As for the Gabriels, rumor has it they are time expired. IMHO, these boats are much much better than the Freemantles. For one thing the SQ boats are true Fast Attack Craft. The Freemantles are large patrol boats. Big difference. The SQ boats are only in the middle of their expected lifespans. The Freemantles are at the end. The SQ Navy is decommisioning them not because they are old or hard to maintain but because they need to free up the manpower for their new Frigates. The RAN is decommisioning the Freemantles because they are old and increasingly hard to maintain. Further, the SQ boats leave a lot of room for the PN to improve on - when funds are available they can be re-armed with missiles very easily, drag and drop to use computer terms. Pound for pound the SQ boats are more heavily armed than the Freemantles even if you consider gun armament alone. Speaking of guns, the Freemantles carry modernized 40mm/L60 - basically modernized WW2 guns. The SQ boats gun armament is much more modern. |
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| datu | May 26 2005, 01:27 PM Post #30 |
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What the Aussies say about the Fremantles.
http://www.defence.gov.au/budget/02-03/dar...forcestruct.htm |
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