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Sea Wolves; Orbat Updates re Sea Wolves
Topic Started: May 24 2005, 02:00 PM (10,040 Views)
Manokski
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Scoop, PN expresses an interest in acquiring Sea Wolves.

www.hueybravo.net - go the the Singapore Maritime Exhibition page.

More to come!
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FINALLY!!! :fire:

the Philippine Navy suddenly had interest in acquiring those soon-to-be surplus Sea Wolf class FACs of the Singaporean Navy. i hope that our comrade from Singapore spiderweb could shed light on the specs of the Sea Wolves and their track record in Singaporean Navy service...

but the Sea Wolves will NOT be available until the arrival of all the Formidable class frigates. if the PN wants to have FACs now, then it should consider the surplus South African Jan Smuts/Warrior/Minister (Saar 4) class, German Tiger class, Greek Combattante II class and Israeli Saar 4 class FACs. :armywink:


Specs of the Singaporean Sea Wolf class FAC:

Displacement: 254 tons
Dimensions: 44.9 x 7 x 2.3 meters (147.3 x 23 x 7.5 feet)
Propulsion: 4 MTU 16V 538 TB92 diesels, 13460 hp, 4 shafts, 38 knots
Crew: 40
Armament: 4 Harpoon SSM (2 twin), 2 Gabriel SAMs, Mistral SAMs, 1 Bofors 57mm/70, 1 Bofors 40mm/70
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Aren't the SEAWOLVES the UH-1B Huey helicopters of US Navy Helicopter Attack (Light) Squadron 3 during the Vietnam War? :aberet:
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goodness! the PN will again let another opportunity pass... the chance of having missile-armed combat vessels. the PN plans to buy the Sea Wolf class FACs WITHOUT the missiles! :grrr:
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May 23 2005, 11:50 PM
goodness! the PN will again let another opportunity pass... the chance of having missile-armed combat vessels. the PN plans to buy the Sea Wolf class FACs WITHOUT the missiles! :grrr:

Well, at least it'll simply be a matter of getting the missiles. :armygrin:
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have you guys read my apology post in the ROTC section?
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Sea wolfs of singapore? they are disposing it infavor of the Fremantles? and in turn we are buying it without the missiles i dont get the idea. or maybe our navy other kind of missiles to mount on its combatants.
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http://www.mindef.gov.sg/navy/assets_hardware.html

losing the missiles is ok, the money saved is better spent on sprucing up the engines and the hull anyway. these hulls are quite old (four launched 1972) but they were upgraded in the mid-80s. the design (Lurssen) is almost identical to the early SAAR and MINISTER classes, and Malaysia and Thailand bought similar boats, though i'm too lazy to check if these are still on strength. the Bofors gun afaik has never been in the PN inventory, and it's the old model, not the Mk3 selected by the USN and the USCG. upgrade?

as long as there aren't any nasty surprises, a solid move by the PN leadership. :thumb:


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May 24 2005, 01:00 AM
losing the missiles is ok, the money saved is better spent on sprucing up the engines and the hull anyway.


as long as there aren't any nasty surprises, a solid move by the PN leadership. :thumb:

:agree:
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21Scorpio
May 24 2005, 04:57 PM
Sea wolfs of singapore? they are disposing it infavor of the Fremantles? and in turn we are buying it without the missiles i dont get the idea. or maybe our navy other kind of missiles to mount on its combatants.

the Singaporeans are disposing the Sea Wolf class missile boats in favor of the Formidable (La Fayette Delta) class guided-missile frigates.

i'm really wondering why the PN is dropping the opportunity of having missile-armed FACs in its inventory. even though the Sea Wolves are old ships, i think keeping the missiles (Gabriel SSMs, Mistral SAMs) will make them nastier. besides, all defense analysts keep on telling the Philippines that as long as the Philippines does not field credible missile systems, no country (even pirates and terrorists) will respect the Philippines.

if we are to buy the Singaporean Sea Wolf class FACs, BUY THE SHIPS ALONG WITH THE ANTI-SHIP AND AIR DEFENSE MISSILES THAT COME WITH THEM. :fire:
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