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| maniegom | May 20 2005, 10:19 AM Post #1 |
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33 Major Bases Among Installations Targeted for Closure by Pentagon May 13, 2005 By Liz Sidoti The Associated Press European edition WASHINGTON — The Pentagon proposed Friday shutting about 180 military installations from Maine to Hawaii including 33 major bases, triggering the first round of base closures in a decade and an intense struggle by communities to save their facilities. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld also recommended a list of scores of other domestic installations — including 29 major bases — that will remain open but with thousands fewer troops. Dozens of others will gain troops from other domestic or foreign bases. Overall, he has said his plan would save $48.8 billion over 20 years while making the military more mobile and better suited for the global effort against terrorism. http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190...ml?ESRC=navy.nl |
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| Singa Lion | May 20 2005, 10:38 AM Post #2 |
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the us military is spending too much money because of involvement in iraq, this is the conequence, close bases to save money. |
 The SAF is an armed force , not a civilian corporation. Its mission is to defeat its enemies, ruthlessly and completely. Its an instrument of controlled fury, designed to visit death and destruction of its foes...soldiers must have steel in their souls ..must learn in war to kill and not to flinch, to destroy and not to feel pity, to be a flaming sword in the righteous cause of national survival. -BG Lee , 1984 | |
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| maniegom | May 20 2005, 10:43 AM Post #3 |
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Well, we're already involved Singa. We just can't pull out anymore, but finish the task at hand. |
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| Singa Lion | May 20 2005, 10:56 AM Post #4 |
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ya and it was a miscalculation on bush and rumsfeld they think the us military can get out of iraq in a short time but not no mre Exit from Iraq could take 'many years' U.S. military chiefs cite lack of progress in training of police Baghdad -- U.S. military commanders in Baghdad and Washington gave a sobering new assessment of the war in Iraq on Wednesday, as generals with major war responsibilities offered assessments that pulled back from recent suggestions -- including by some of the same officers -- that positive trends in Iraq could allow a reduction in the 138,000 U.S. troops in Iraq late this year or early in 2006. One senior officer suggested Wednesday that U.S. military involvement in Iraq could last "many years." Gen. John Abizaid, the top U.S. officer in the Middle East, said in a briefing in Washington that one problem was the disappointing progress in developing Iraqi paramilitary police units cohesive enough to mount an effective challenge to the insurgents and allow U.S. forces to reduce their role in fighting. Abizaid was in Washington this week for a meeting of the regional commanders from around the world. Bush, in a speech Wednesday evening in Washington, called for patience in assessing the progress of Iraq toward democracy. On Wednesday, a senior officer in Baghdad said in a background briefing that there had been nearly as many car bombings in Baghdad so far this month as in all of last year. Also Wednesday, an Iraqi general was killed in a drive- by shooting in Baghdad. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...MNGSCCREHH1.DTL |
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The SAF is an armed force , not a civilian corporation. Its mission is to defeat its enemies, ruthlessly and completely. Its an instrument of controlled fury, designed to visit death and destruction of its foes...soldiers must have steel in their souls ..must learn in war to kill and not to flinch, to destroy and not to feel pity, to be a flaming sword in the righteous cause of national survival. -BG Lee , 1984 | |
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| maniegom | May 20 2005, 11:05 AM Post #5 |
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Well Singa, I'm a military man and do follow orders to the last drop. It is not my place to question them, but to follow (whether I agree or not). I hope you understand what I mean. Simply put, whatever my Commander-in-Chief or my superiors order, I carry them out. |
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| dororodo | May 20 2005, 11:21 AM Post #6 |
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i wonder whats keeping gergie from kicking that dumbass rumsfeld out of the dod? he made all those foot in mouth pronouncements about iraq a cakewalk, the occupation needs only 100000 soldiers on the ground, the insurgency is only limited to a few blahblahblah... |
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| saver111 | May 20 2005, 12:32 PM Post #7 |
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Well that's their mistake. Right now as you can see with those Muslim terrorist it's fundamentalism. Mere topic regarding their religion could spark a new front and reason to fight on. See the Koran issue. Afghanistan is again in the news. They should have learned from us. From the MNLF, MILF to the ASG. And our DND is now saying it will be closed and done in 10 years. With the Islamification of the world going on... 
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| Numbers | May 20 2005, 05:30 PM Post #8 |
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Counter insurgency is the hardest military ops to win, and in most cases, not 'won' in the battlefield but in the negotiating table through whatever peace process... The US and the remaining coalition partners can never win this war, they will have to broker a deal with the insurgents at some point in the future, either through goading by the American public opinion or by the government of Iraq itself. |
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| commando | May 20 2005, 07:08 PM Post #9 |
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The 2003 Invasion of Iraq is the greatest blunder in American military history. The problem during the time was intelligence. The CIA did prroly in gathering and interpreting material. And the greatest jackass who ever became the Secretary of Defense (worse than MacNamara) Donald Rumsfeld helped destroy a country and gave another great liability to the US. Damn you, Rumsfeld! :crazy: |
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| maniegom | May 25 2005, 12:59 PM Post #10 |
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http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,1331...ml?ESRC=navy.nl U.S. Navy Still Has Enough Bases United Press International May 19, 2005 WASHINGTON - The head of the U.S. Navy says he is "confident" recommended base closures are "more than sufficient to fully support the Navy force." Gordon R. England, who also serves as acting deputy secretary of defense, told members of the Base Realignment and Closure Commission the world, the country and the Navy have changed, American Forces Press Service. In response, England said, the Navy must adapt its infrastructure to better meet this new environment. That involves transforming the military so it's ready to meet current and future threats and demands eliminating excess infrastructure and consolidating operations, England told the commission. To support this effort, the Defense Department has recommended closing nine major Navy bases and 46 smaller installations and realigning eight major Navy bases, U.S. officials said. The recommended changes were based on saving defense dollars so they can be invested where they're needed and developing bases to support military readiness for the future, Anne Davis, deputy assistant secretary of the Navy, told the committee members. |
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