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BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15); ex USCGC Hamilton (WHEC-715)
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It's harpooning ...... este happening!

New Equipment For Navy Ships
By ELENA L. ABEN
September 8, 2012, 8:25pm
MANILA, Philippines — A top defense official said the Hamilton-class cutters of the Philippine Navy (PN) will get sophisticated radars and an anti-ship missile system to make the vessels more capable of engaging intruders to Philippine territorial waters.

According to the official, the BRP Gregorio Del Pilar and the soon-to-arrive BRP Ramon Alcaraz, will be equipped with Harpoon, an anti-ship missile system, and will also be fitted with more sophisticated radars capable of detecting and tracking incoming surface threats and anti-missile and torpedo decoying systems.

The official said the Harpoon is the ideal missile system for Del Pilar and Alcaraz, noting that a sister-ship of the vessels, the USCGC Mellon (WHEC-717), has been fitted with the Harpoon missile launchers and test fired the weapons in January, 1990. Both Del Pilar and Alcaraz were acquired from the United States Coast Guard (USCG).

“These upgrades will make our Hamilton-class cutters more capable vessels. It will definitely satisfy our minimum deterrent capability as far as naval defense is concern,” the official emphasized.

Del Pilar is currently the biggest ship of the Philippine Navy, while Alcaraz is due to arrive before the end of the year.

The vessels were originally equipped with an AN/SPS-40 air-search radar Mark 92 Fire Control System, and armed with one Oto Melara Mark-75 76mm gun, two Mark K-38 25mm machinegun systems, two Mark 36 SRBOC systems,

one Phalanx CIWS missile defense gun, along with multiple mounted M2HB .50 caliber machineguns, and M240 7.62mm machineguns.

But under the PN service, the weapons and sensor systems were removed with the exception of the Oto Melara Mark-75 76mm main gun.

“With the Harpoon, we will not be getting an unproven weapon system as the missile has been successfully test fired from the USCGC Mellon,” said the defense official.

He added that the weapons refit might be done in the United States under a government-to-government deal.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/372747/new-equipment-for-navy-ships


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Sep 9 2012, 01:33 PM
Wonderful news and would be even better when it comes into fruition. Maximizing the potential of the Del Pilar class is the smart way to go. Hopefully they will install better sensors than those that were taken out. A Phalanx CIWS or RAM would complete it. Hoping for a "true and dedicated" Naval/ASW helicopter to eventually come for them.

On a lighter note, you might have intuitive powers and predicting the future is something in you. Now would it be grand if everything in that photo will come true? :lollol: :rifle: I'd personally like to see that lump of steel in the background burn as well. :rifle:
Haha... di naman siguro... but who knows di ba.. now that the new acquired ships will be armed with anti-ship and OTH missiles, intruders should now have second thoughts of messing around on our own backyard...

And I doubt that they will even risk their most precious and beloved Shi-lang as our target, for the time being... may take years before we can detect Shi-lang in the WPS radar...
Edited by Mckoyzzz, Sep 9 2012, 01:48 PM.
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maybe Mc's has an ability to predict our future...just like nostradamus! lol :thumbsup:

anyways, good to hear the news for our pf-15 & pf-16 for their new ASM..lets hope and crossfinger when monching sailing home here with that harpoon missiles and MK38 mod 2 gun for her and for goyo too! :pistols:
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Let's hope it's the Block IIs, since we might use it near our shores.
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Sep 9 2012, 01:45 PM
It's harpooning ...... este happening!

New Equipment For Navy Ships
By ELENA L. ABEN
September 8, 2012, 8:25pm
MANILA, Philippines — A top defense official said the Hamilton-class cutters of the Philippine Navy (PN) will get sophisticated radars and an anti-ship missile system to make the vessels more capable of engaging intruders to Philippine territorial waters.

According to the official, the BRP Gregorio Del Pilar and the soon-to-arrive BRP Ramon Alcaraz, will be equipped with Harpoon, an anti-ship missile system, and will also be fitted with more sophisticated radars capable of detecting and tracking incoming surface threats and anti-missile and torpedo decoying systems.

The official said the Harpoon is the ideal missile system for Del Pilar and Alcaraz, noting that a sister-ship of the vessels, the USCGC Mellon (WHEC-717), has been fitted with the Harpoon missile launchers and test fired the weapons in January, 1990. Both Del Pilar and Alcaraz were acquired from the United States Coast Guard (USCG).

“These upgrades will make our Hamilton-class cutters more capable vessels. It will definitely satisfy our minimum deterrent capability as far as naval defense is concern,” the official emphasized.

Del Pilar is currently the biggest ship of the Philippine Navy, while Alcaraz is due to arrive before the end of the year.

The vessels were originally equipped with an AN/SPS-40 air-search radar Mark 92 Fire Control System, and armed with one Oto Melara Mark-75 76mm gun, two Mark K-38 25mm machinegun systems, two Mark 36 SRBOC systems,

one Phalanx CIWS missile defense gun, along with multiple mounted M2HB .50 caliber machineguns, and M240 7.62mm machineguns.

But under the PN service, the weapons and sensor systems were removed with the exception of the Oto Melara Mark-75 76mm main gun.

“With the Harpoon, we will not be getting an unproven weapon system as the missile has been successfully test fired from the USCGC Mellon,” said the defense official.

He added that the weapons refit might be done in the United States under a government-to-government deal.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/372747/new-equipment-for-navy-ships


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so pagdating ni Alcaraz, meron n ung harpoon naka install? sana ganun na... :banana:
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as per this we are also getting 2 units of the MK38 Mod 2 machine guns

these could be for the 2 WHECS.

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BAE Systems Land and Armaments Inc., U.S. Combat Systems Division, Louisville, Ky., is being awarded a $24,257,531 firm-fixed-price contract for 21 MK38 Mod 2 machine gun systems and associated spare parts in support of the U.S. Navy and the Philippines. This contract combines purchases for the U.S. Navy (92.7 percent) and the government of the Philippines (7.4 percent) under the Foreign Military Sales Program. The MK 38 Mod 2 machine gun system ordnance alteration kit consists of two-axis stabilization with remote control capability and an on-mount day/night electro-optical suite along with an eye-safe laser range finder. The spare parts being procured on this contract include 13 toplight assemblies, 12 multi-function displays, four main control panels, six battery chargers, and one installation and checkout spare with deliveries starting in November 2013. Work will be performed in Hafia, Israel (68 percent) and Louisville, Ky. (32 percent), and is expected to be completed by May 2014. Contract funds in the amount of $9,509,007 will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This contract was not competitively procured. The Naval Surface Warfare Center, Indian Head, Md., is the contracting activity (N00174-12-C-0026).

http://www.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=4868

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/US_Navy_111231-N-KS651-967_A_Mk_38_MOD_2_25mm_machine_gun_system_aboard_the_amphibious_dock_landing_ship_USS_Pearl_Harbor_(LSD_52)_ejects_casings_d.jpg
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Warships to get remote-controlled deck guns
By Philip Ewing - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Jun 29, 2009 5:48:18 EDT

Nine years after terrorists in a small boat bombed the destroyer Cole, the ship is slated to become the Navy’s latest surface combatant to get an advanced new deck gun that top commanders hope will prevent unwanted small boats from getting that close.

By the beginning of August, Cole will have a pair of Mk 38 Mod 2 chain guns, which can be aimed and fired remotely from inside the bridge, along with new electro-optical sights.

Officials want the remote-controlled guns to be installed on most or all of the Navy’s warships by 2015.

Navy officials say the guns take sailors out of the firing line and give them a new set of eyes for protecting the ship against small threats close aboard, but they also help crews with more mundane tasks, such as finding channel buoys.

“They love it,” said Kevin Lapointe, program manager for surface guns at Naval Sea Systems Command. “This is a significant capability — not just the gun. It’s being used for more than it was initially intended. … They’re using it to gather information and do surveillance.”

The new chain gun is a modified version of the 25mm Bushmaster that has been carried on Navy ships for decades, but the unmanned, stabilized version can be much more accurate than a gun fired by a sailor, Lapointe said, and it can follow and fire at a target automatically.

To do that, it uses a Toplite electro-optical/infrared sensor, which can see in day or night, and a laser range finder linked to a computer inside the skin of the ship. Sailors — typically the same gunner’s mates who manned the earlier version of the chain guns — use a joystick to turn and zoom the camera.

“The captain can say, ‘Hey, take a look and see what that is out there, find out how far away he is,’ ” said Ben Nies, program manager for the gun’s manufacturer, BAE Systems.

The gun’s optics can turn and zoom independently of the gun barrel, Nies said, so sailors don’t have to aim the cannon on a small boat they want to investigate. If they need to fire, the cannon swings into place to point at its target.

If a warship is taking fire and its chain gun sensors are damaged, gunner’s mates can aim and fire the gun the old-fashioned way. If a ship loses power, a battery in each chain gun gives it enough juice to operate for about two hours.

The Navy plans to spend $330 million on a total of 251 Mod 2 mounts and outfit them on almost all surface ships, although Lapointe said officials are still determining which ships will get them. The plan calls for three Mod 2s aboard amphibious assault ships; two for cruisers, destroyers, frigates and Austin-, Whidbey Island- and Harpers Ferry-class amphibious ships; and one for patrol coastal ships. All the guns are scheduled to be installed by 2015, Nies said.

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The Mk 38 Mod 2 chain gun has the same firepower characteristics as the Mod 0 and Mod 1:

• Rate of fire is about 180 rounds per minute.

• Selectable firing modes, including single-shot, low-speed or high-speed automatic fire.

• Draws ammunition from a pair of boxes that can include standard or high explosive rounds; ships carry about 168 rounds of ammunition per gun when they deploy.

But the stabilized, sailor-controlled Mod 2 variant is more accurate than the human-aimed and fired Mod 0 or Mod 1, and it can:

• Be fired from inside the skin of the ship.

• Track and fire at targets automatically.

• See in day and night and use a laser range finder to determine the distance to its target.

Sources: Naval Sea Systems Command, BAE Systems.http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/06/navy_chain_gun_062909w/
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This is the Mk 38 Mod 2 on board USS Gary, FFG-51. It fires a 25mm (~1 inch) projectile 1,100 meters per second (3,600 FPS) at 180 rounds per minute.

This video shows us firing 55 rounds of TPT at the water off the coast of California. This is our first time firing.

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So our WHEC will be getting 76mm DART ammo, an automated 25mm chain gun, a new naval helicopter, torpedo decoys, and Harpoon missiles! But how about ASW sonar and torpedoes/depth charges?
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So our WHEC will be getting 76mm DART ammo, an automated 25mm chain gun, a new naval helicopter, torpedo decoys, and Harpoon missiles! But how about ASW sonar and torpedoes/depth charges?
The heli, I assume, would fill that niche.

In my opinion, the GDP-class would be an ineffective ASW platform all by itself since it lacks the thing that all ASW-designed ships have; speed.

You know that the GDP is only a CODOG vessel, which is quite a poor performer compared to CODAG frigates, which run like a Ferrari.

Also, there is another reason for the lack of ship-mounted anti-submarine equipment, which I couldn't disclose for now.
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