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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (156,034 Views)
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China's aggression in the Spratley's is also heavily tied to oil exploration.

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The Spratley's is believed to be holding 3 billion barrels of oil. Surpassing the reserves of many big oil producers across the globe.

China is already bringing in it's giant oil rig.

We should EXPEDITE OUR OWN OIL EXPLORATION and BUILD MORE RIGS SO THAT CHINA WONT SUCK OUT ALL OF IT.

Secure these operations and speed up the purchase of jet fighters and naval vessels.

And shoot down any chinese jets or naval vessels that will interfere in our areas.

Let's support the development of the naval station in Ulugan Bay.


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Another video showing how greedy this Big Bully China is;

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JS4VZbCWj8&feature=related
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http://ph.news.yahoo.com/pnoy-push-intl-ar...-055906766.html

PNoy to push int'l arbitration on Spratlys dispute

President Benigno Aquino III will be pushing for an international arbitration on the Spratlys territorial dispute when he visit China later this year, despite Beijing's earlier opposition to the idea.

“I think that is the only recourse left open to us," the President said Friday at a press briefing after the awarding of housing units to military and police personnel in Calamba, Laguna.

The foreign affairs departments of the Philippines and Beijing are finalizing the schedule for Aquino’s state visit to China this year.

Asked if he would reiterate the Philippine government’s proposal for international arbitration, the President said "yes".

Earlier this week, China rejected the Philippines’ suggestion to elevate the dispute to the United Nation's International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS).

China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hong Lei said the country is more willing to settle the Spratlys issue “through direct negotiations between directly concerned countries" than in the UN-backed panel.

Aquino said the Philippine government wants to establish first who precisely is in the right when it comes to the definition of the rights imbued under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

“So where do you go? You don’t actually go to China to ask them to define what the Philippine rights are as far as the West Philippine Sea is concerned, you have to go to the body where everybody is a signatory practically to, and that is the UN, and specifically the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea," he said.

The Philippines has accused China of intruding into its territory, particularly near the Reed Bank off Palawan province, several times in the past months, basing the information on reports from the military.

The Spratlys, which cover major shipping lanes in the West Philippine Sea, are a cluster of islands, reefs, and atolls rich in marine resources and believed to contain huge deposits of oil and natural gas.
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This is plain and simple reverse-psychology or diversionary tactics of the Chi so that the Republicans and Democrats will argue to lower the military spending and pave the way for Chi to have increase power silently. With this tactic, they press some st*p*d American people to "believe" that US Govt is spending too much on military needs and not for the American people. They wanted to F**L the world that US is wasting money.

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zwahzhal
Jul 18 2011, 03:04 AM
This is plain and simple reverse-psychology or diversionary tactics of the Chi so that the Republicans and Democrats will argue to lower the military spending and pave the way for Chi to have increase power silently. With this tactic, they press some st*p*d American people to "believe" that US Govt is spending too much on military needs and not for the American people. They wanted to F**L the world that US is wasting money.

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Heard the news on Ch21 that US Government is really considering cutting down their expenditures on Active Military Defense by a Huge Margin and this affects US presence on some countries. But US should pull-out now in Iraq and Afghanistan then US should focus in Southeast Asian region . The US shouldn't allow China to tell me what is best for their country even telling them to cut-down Military expenditures.
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/25107/us-lawm...e-over-spratlys

US lawmakers back Philippines in dispute over Spratlys

Thirty-one members of the US House of Representatives, led by the chairs of the committee on foreign affairs and subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific, have jointly sponsored a symbolic resolution backing the Philippines’ call for a multilateral and rules-based approach to settling the disputes in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

The measure also condemned the “use of force and overt threats in resolving disputes” in the strategic and resource-rich area, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said on Sunday.

Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario welcomed the move, pointing out anew that “the Philippines is a small country, but it is prepared and committed to do what is necessary to stand up to any aggressive action in our backyard.”

Del Rosario said Manila officials “welcome the support of US congressmen to the Philippine position with respect to the West Philippine Sea issue. Indeed the Philippines strongly believes that a rules-based approach provides the key to validating our claims and advancing the peaceful and fair settlement of the dispute in the area.”

In a report to the DFA, the Philippine Embassy in Washington said the House resolution was filed on Friday by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Republican, Florida), chair of the foreign affairs committee; and Representatives Dan Manzullo (Republican, Illinois) and Eni Faleomavaega (Democrat, American Samoa), chair and ranking member of the subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific, respectively.

The measure “also had 27 (18 Republicans and nine Democrats) cosponsors,” the embassy noted.

Raul Hernandez, the DFA spokesperson, said the resolution “highlighted certain provisions,” including a statement issued by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that Washington was “determined and committed to supporting the defense of the Philippines.”

“There’s also a provision saying that the United States (on June 23) stated that it was ready to provide hardware to modernize the military of the Philippines,” Hernandez added.

On June 27, the US Senate unanimously approved a resolution deploring the use of force by Chinese vessels in territorial disputes in the West Philippine Sea.

Tensions in the contested waters have escalated in recent weeks, with the Philippines and Vietnam alarmed at what they say are increasingly aggressive actions by China.

China has repeatedly called for bilateral, instead of multilateral, talks with claimant-countries.

Aside from the Philippines and China, the Spratlys are also being claimed in whole or in part by Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

During her recent meeting with Del Rosario in Washington, Clinton said supporting the defense of the Philippines would mean “finding ways of providing affordable material and equipment that will assist the Philippine military to take the steps necessary to defend itself.”

For his part, Del Rosario said that with the growing tension in the West Philippine Sea, Manila would “do what is necessary to stand up to any aggressive action

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Hope that US will continue to support us over conflict in West Philippine Sea while we should approach the Russians, French, Australia, UK, Spain, India, South Korea and Japan for their support to this issue as well...
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Filipinos fly flag in South China Sea

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PUERTO PRINCESA, Palawan - For the few dozen Filipinos living on a remote speck of land in the South China Sea, each day is a battle against loneliness but also a love affair with nature.

Contact with the outside world is limited and comforts are few for the residents of "Freedom" town, which exists mainly to raise the Philippine flag and fend off the other claimants to the Spratly islands.

"People here just play billiards, ping-pong. We have no markets and no malls. You need a special mindset to stay here," said Eugenio Bito-onon, 55, mayor of the town of Kalayaan, the Filipino word for freedom.

Bito-onon, who initially went to Kalayaan in 1997 to work as a town planner, said he learned to cope by playing guitar, watching videos and simply walking around the small islands surrounded by the purest blue ocean waters.

"I love the beauty of the place. It is so peaceful," said the deeply suntanned Bito-onon while on a visit recently back to Puerto Princesa, the nearest major Philippine city on Palawan island.

Kalayaan was created in 1978 mainly to assert the Philippines' claim to the the Spratlys, a group of more than 700 islets, reefs and atolls in the South China Sea that is believed to sit above vast natural resources.

The Philippines, China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei claim all or part of the Spratlys, part of a broader territorial dispute across the South China Sea.


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/07/18/11...south-china-sea
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PH welcomes US House reso on Spratlys

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MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines welcomes the filing of a resolution in the US House of Representatives, calling for "a peaceful and collaborative resolution of maritime territorial disputes in the South China Sea."

Deputy Presidential Spokesperson Abigail Valte said the Palace will not judge whether this would have "persuasive value" on China which Valte said has also echoed the Philippines' call for a peaceful resolution on the issue.

Valte said Philippine officials will continue to speak with their Chinese counterparts even as President Aquino is bent on raising the dispute with the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea (ITLOS).


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Philippine lawmakers to visit 1 of disputed Spratly Islands to press Manila's claim to it

By The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – 2 hours 37 minutes ago
MANILA, Philippines - Five Filipino lawmakers say they plan to visit one of the disputed Spratly Islands to press Manila's claim to it and do not expect hostility from rival claimants.
Left-wing Rep. Walden Bello says he and four House of Representatives colleagues plan to meet Filipino troops and villagers on Pag-asa Island on Wednesday. It is claimed by the Philippines, China and Vietnam. The group then plans to fly on a private plane over contested areas like the Chinese-occupied Mischief Reef.
Bello's Akbayan Party calls the one-day trip a "sovereignty mission." Journalists also will be on the trip. Bello said Monday it is not part of a military operation.
He says: "I personally would not expect to be brought down by anti-aircraft guns."
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India and USA to protect Vietnam from China


Vietnam is not alone in a festering territorial dispute with China. In the near future Indian warships will arrive into the South China Sea. This is a group of destroyers CMD (controlled missile defense).

But there is more to it: at the end of June there were reports from New Delhi that the Indian Navy intends to settle in the South China Sea for a long time. The Indian side is expected to establish a permanent military presence there.

According to the official government version of India, this will help the Navy of India to play a more prominent role in South-East Asia where strategic shipping lines are located.

By doing this, India, as one of the major competitors of China in the region, intends to prevent the far-reaching plans of China to expand its sphere of influence. It is no secret that China intends to establish full control over all the islands in the South China Sea.

At the moment, it controls the Paracel Islands seized in 1974 from South Vietnam, as well as a smaller part of the Spratly archipelago. The severity of the dispute is explained not only by the importance of shipping lanes from the Pacific into the Indian Ocean, but also the wealth of biological resources of the South China Sea and, most importantly, large deposits of hydrocarbons on the shelf.

In particular, the Vietnamese side provides the entry for the Indian warships and naval bases in Nhatraneg and Halong Bay. In addition, India offers aid to Vietnam to increase its naval power by building ships and training of Vietnamese sailors.


Hanoi is not able to withstand the Chinese pressure at sea. This is clearly demonstrated by the events of 1988 when the Chinese were able to capture the Spratly archipelago and win a landslide victory in the clash with Vietnamese Navy.

Since then, the gap between the Chinese and the Vietnamese Navy has increased many times not in favor of the latter. Several years ago, Vietnam's leadership took steps to reduce it. In particular, they purchased six diesel submarines from Russia. Nevertheless, their presence could not stop the Chinese who have much more powerful navy.

In the last six months, they have been actively demonstrating their muscles not only to the Vietnamese but also Filipinos who are also claiming a part of the Spratly archipelago. The severity of the territorial dispute has reached such a high level that Manila recently asked Washington to interfere, and tried to develop a united front with Vietnam to cope with the "China threat."

However, the Chinese Navy is decisively superior to the battle fleets of Vietnam and the Philippines combined, and in the event of military conflict the chances of Manila and Hanoi at sea are minimal.

Recently, the likelihood of this scenario has markedly increased. In late May, the tension between China - Vietnam and China - the Philippines has increased dramatically. The parties sent additional Navy forces to the problem areas. Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung on June 14 issued a decree in this regard on conscription of sailors in the event of further escalation of the conflict with China.

The latter, based on the balance of power, is clearly not afraid and shows determination and full control over the Spratly archipelago. An additional impetus is given by high world prices on hydrocarbons, on the one hand, and the lack of progress in Chinese-Russian negotiations on gas prices, on the other.

However, the establishment of China's full control over the islands of the South China Sea has created enormous problems for the countries of South and Southeast Asia. Even in Indonesia, not to mention Malaysia and the Philippines, there are growing fears that China might use the Spratly as a springboard to leap into the South Seas countries.

As for India, there is another reason why the growing Chinese expansion in the region has caused such a strong opposition. Recently its opponent Pakistan decided to give the Chinese a naval base on its shores. In case of further strengthening of China in the South China Sea, India is risking to be extremely disadvantaged in terms of strategic position.

However, speaking of the commotion caused by the Chinese activity, we should not forget about "the singer behind the scenes." The United States plays a significant role in building the anti-Chinese alliance with India.

Since December of 2007 the influential American officials, including the chief of the CIA, have been paying regular visits to Vietnam. In the face of rising threats from the Chinese, the parties are demonstrating their intent to forget past grievances. This once again emphasizes that despite the anticipated military demonstrations in India the U.S. warships will arrive to the Vietnamese coast in the near future.

They will not limit themselves with "courtesy calls" and will conduct trainings with the Vietnamese Navy. Of course, it has already provoked a nervous reaction in China that urged the U.S. to "not interfere in the territorial disputes in the South China Sea." Yet, this outcry is unlikely to scare the Americans who will be increasing their activity in the region as China's activities are enhancing. Otherwise they will lose the strategically important in terms of geopolitics territory to the Chinese.
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