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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (156,063 Views)
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The defense department reports the presence of China Marine Surveillance (CMS) vessels in Iroquois (Amy Douglas) Bank, some 125 nautical miles off the coast of Palawan
China surveillance ships roam Phl waters

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MANILA, Philippines – The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) sought the explanation of the Chinese embassy on the reported sighting of a China Marine Surveillance (CMS) vessel at the vicinity of Iroquois (Amy Douglas) Bank in the West Philippine Sea.

The DFA expressed its serious concern over the recent activities of China vessels in Philippine waters, especially that the Department of National Defense also spotted China’s People Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) ships in the area.

Citing reports from the DND, the foreign affairs department said the ships were seen offloading building materials for the construction of several structures in the area.

The DFA said China has also placed a buoy near the breaker of the Iroquois Bank, about 26 nautical miles east of Patag Island and 125 nautical miles from mainland Palawan.

Below are the photo releases from the DFA, revealing the presence of Chinese vessels in Iroquois Bank.


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The Iroquois Bank is located southwest of Recto (Reed) Bank and east of Patag (Flat) Island and is well within the Philippines’ 200 nautical miles Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). There are currently no structures on the said bank and the island is unoccupied.

DFA Secretary Albert del Rosario said “any new construction by China in the vicinity of the uninhabited Iroquois Bank is a clear violation of the 2002 ASEAN-China Declaration on the Conduct of Parties (DOC) in the South China Sea.”

The DFA asked the Chinese embassy for the exact planned location of the mega oil rig and pointed that it should not be placed in Philippine territory or its waters.

Chinese Charge d'Affaires Bai Tian was summoned Tuesday for talks over China's recent actions and sought clarification from them.

Chinese Embassy officials did not immediately return calls seeking comment but China has consistently claimed sovereignty over the entire South China Sea.

Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin told reporters Wednesday that the Armed Forces of the Philippines is ready to defend the country but "we're not in the position to confront China that is a rising power in Asia."

In March, the Philippines accused two Chinese patrol boats of harassing a Philippine oil exploration ship near Palawan. Last month, the Philippine air force reported that two unidentified foreign fighter jets had flown near a Spratly island occupied by Filipino troops but China denied sending the aircraft.

Chinese media have reported that Beijing plans to install an advanced oil rig in the South China Sea in July.(With AP)

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victor
Jun 3 2011, 05:11 PM
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Jun 3 2011, 06:34 AM
Much better if Protest with actions against intrusions, blowing up and destroying markers and buoys and putting back our own markers...

What those Filipino fishermen did was heroic and our Govt. and Soldiers should be  ashamed, that an ordinary Filipino was able to do what they were suppose to be doing...  while them "DO NOTHING!"

AVB ,How do you know its an ordinary fisherman? Do you think they have the facilities to do it without the blessing of the AFP? take note that the area today is a little bit tense and no ordinary fisherman will dare to go there without the knowledge of the AFP/

@Victor,

Well I don't! How about you, how did you know that their not ordinary Fishermen? :armyskeptic:

My comments are based on the NEWS article source, how do you know all these things? Does your assumption have a source? Are you with the AFP?

Well if you know something that we don't, then better for you to share it here than asking me Questions that you already know what my answer will be...
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AVBsupersonic
Jun 3 2011, 09:08 PM
victor
Jun 3 2011, 05:11 PM
AVBsupersonic
Jun 3 2011, 06:34 AM
Much better if Protest with actions against intrusions, blowing up and destroying markers and buoys and putting back our own markers...

What those Filipino fishermen did was heroic and our Govt. and Soldiers should be  ashamed, that an ordinary Filipino was able to do what they were suppose to be doing...  while them "DO NOTHING!"

AVB ,How do you know its an ordinary fisherman? Do you think they have the facilities to do it without the blessing of the AFP? take note that the area today is a little bit tense and no ordinary fisherman will dare to go there without the knowledge of the AFP/

@Victor,

Well I don't! How about you, how did you know that their not ordinary Fishermen? :armyskeptic:

My comments are based on the NEWS article source, how do you know all these things? Does your assumption have a source? Are you with the AFP?

Well if you know something that we don't, then better for you to share it here than asking me Questions that you already know what my answer will be...

Your comments have passed judgement on AFP. It is very unfair for the guys there, be more civil :specool: I am just reacting to your comments.



our Govt. and Soldiers should be ashamed, that an ordinary Filipino was able to do what they were suppose to be doing... while them "DO NOTHING!"


Address Spratly Island to KALAYAAN ISLANDS, South China Sea to WESTERN PHILIPPINE SEA or Kanlurang Dagat ng Pilipinas.
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They should install BrahMos missiles on Pag-Asa island (with an operational range of 290 km) or the Swedish RBS-15 (250km operational range): since the island is so far West, it could hit PLAN ships coming from further West.

Then make sure to install CIWS systems on our ships and military installations in the KIG: like this:


Here is a video:
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AVBsupersonic
Jun 3 2011, 09:08 PM
victor
Jun 3 2011, 05:11 PM
AVBsupersonic
Jun 3 2011, 06:34 AM
Much better if Protest with actions against intrusions, blowing up and destroying markers and buoys and putting back our own markers...

What those Filipino fishermen did was heroic and our Govt. and Soldiers should be  ashamed, that an ordinary Filipino was able to do what they were suppose to be doing...  while them "DO NOTHING!"

AVB ,How do you know its an ordinary fisherman? Do you think they have the facilities to do it without the blessing of the AFP? take note that the area today is a little bit tense and no ordinary fisherman will dare to go there without the knowledge of the AFP/

@Victor,

Well I don't! How about you, how did you know that their not ordinary Fishermen? :armyskeptic:

My comments are based on the NEWS article source, how do you know all these things? Does your assumption have a source? Are you with the AFP?

Well if you know something that we don't, then better for you to share it here than asking me Questions that you already know what my answer will be...

They are ORDINARY fisher folks who thinks about their family, livelihood, territory, and most of all, their COUNTRY. A true PATRIOT and CITIZEN. :patrioticpinoy:
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They should install BrahMos missiles on Pag-Asa island (with an operational range of 290 km) or the Swedish RBS-15 (250km operational range): since the island is so far West, it could hit PLAN ships coming from further West.

Then make sure to install CIWS systems on our ships and military installations in the KIG: like this:


Here is a video:
video

Can you understand russian? Bcuz i dont. I love the video though, and how i wish this kind of dream come true for the PN, having some CIWS mounted at their naval ships.
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Guys I just found this article, it's an old one but very detailed and will be good for widening our knowledge.... (May have been posted here long time ago, but in time for the current situation.)

Troubled Waters


Troubled Waters "East Asias Arms Race" etc.
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^ nice articles AVB! it seems that the new frontier of a so called economic war is the KIG, where most of the ships pass through. I won't be surprised if China will be occupying those islands one after the other, it's not a matter of if, just a matter of when. Even the US is keeping its hands off the matter, saying the KIG is not part of the 1951 RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty.

We know the fact that US owes China bigtime, so it's interesting to see if the US will just let us fall at the hands of the communists or aid us covertly. It looks like the balance of power has tilted towards China on this.
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Yes INDEED! KIG is but not REED Bank Area!

These Foreign Companies won't engage in a Contracted Oil Exploration if they know that we don't have any Jurisdiction on the said area...

Read on," China fired at Pinoy fishermen in Jackson Atoll, From VERA Files" Topic threads re; my posted thoughts...

Don't worry about the US, they just want to teach us to help ourselves more before anything.... They maybe playing it down now with the Press, but basically trying to do what China is doing to us.... Like "Saying something nice they want to hear, but doing something in contrast to what they are saying..."
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I'd like to see a United Nations Mission in Kalayaan, with Filipino peacekeepers.
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