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| The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones? | |
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| AVBsupersonic | May 20 2011, 03:11 AM Post #521 |
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How long does it take for our OV-10s from time of dispatch going to REED Bank area? Maybe they can even hear our radio control commands signals...?
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| Samir_Duran | May 20 2011, 03:18 AM Post #522 |
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I got information just now from Mossad that it was not a MIG 29 but an Su 27.China does not operate MIG 29's. The two look almost the same so probably they (our pilots) mistook it as MIG's. |
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| Hitman | May 20 2011, 03:31 AM Post #523 |
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you are so right.. lots of assholes and idiots in Tiwama they are also biased and like to harass. Sometimes non technical also gives good ideas and then can be turn into or apply technical aspects to it. so here in PDFF all are welcome and more freedom of speech and can learn more new info. PDFF is far better. |
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| Hitman | May 20 2011, 03:38 AM Post #524 |
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KIG is becoming a flash point. remember, its not only China that we have to watch and worry about but other claimants like Vietnam who has better armed forces than ours. And also the goals and objectives of other claimants especially china is not to invade completely the Philippines or any other country but to seize that part that has lots of oil deposits which is at the moment in our border with them so they can go technical and say it belongs to them but once they seize and occupy it thats the end of the story folks just like they did with that reef they seize recently. Our AFP modernization is way behind now and kind of late. If China decides to make a move we are check mate guys. But of course may as well proceed with the military build up but we have to move faster. otherwise we have more to loose as time goes by. lets hope China will not make a drastic move yet. we need to build stronger alliances with Japan and South Korea also maybe they can help patrol the area for the mean time while we are working on our slow modernization |
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| Samir_Duran | May 20 2011, 03:42 AM Post #525 |
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Agree! I came from that forum but it was a not so good experience. It's like that forum is for scientists only no bobo. Here, you can be who you are at the same time maka-MASA. Pang JUAN DELA CRUZ. There it's like military nerds, geeks, military scientists, political scientists. Opinions does not matter but facts. They are more on the brain. Here it is brain, heart, and conscience. I like it here VERY MUCH. I even made some friends here in real life. |
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| AVBsupersonic | May 20 2011, 04:10 AM Post #526 |
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You are right H, although Vietnam doesn't really mind us re; Reed Bank Area maybe because they know and respect that it is well within our EEZ, it's only China a stray who's by far long way from home... :crazy: I don't think asking JAPAN who's busy dealing with it's own problems right now, same with South Korea with the North, for them to patrol for us is not applicable and Unethical. The only quick solution for us that I can see is to ask the US to lease us (2) Squadrons of either F-18s or F-16s on a Lease to Own Terms, or ask South Korea if they can sell us some of their KF-5s like (8-12) Tiger II will be the much quicker and faster for our PAF Pilots to adapt due to familiarity with the F-5s, this is a better option than not to have one and need it.... :thumb: Even though Chinese SU-27s are more superior than the KF-5 Tiger II still it can put up a good fight especially if it's equipped with the right armaments/ weapons. |
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| Zero wing | May 20 2011, 04:20 AM Post #527 |
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Why not buy sams and anti-tank and air manpads from South Korea give Philippine Navy, Airforce and Army build air defense first then buy those KAI KT-1 since they have air to air capabilities and for training and to be force multiplier long air patrol then buy the old F5 or vice versa then KF-16 and KAI T-50 Golden Eagle and P-3ck. |
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"No sacrifice is too great in the service of freedom." “As long as we are not willing to provide an adequate, suitable and capable defense for this country, we will be oppressed, demeaned and dishonored. We will be the stepping mat of every country in this region,”(Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile) “Just because we are a very weak country militarily, we should not be taken advantage of by more powerful countries" (Senate committee on national defense and security chairman Panfilo Lacson) | |
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| Marschall | May 20 2011, 04:24 AM Post #528 |
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A very good comment! All the "diplomacy" rants of our officials mean nothing when China can simply intrude into our territory - which she routinely does - without expecting any opposition at all. What is needed is that the AFP be given the hardware it needs to fulfill its mission: securing the Philippines against interior and extrerior foes. The Chinese want the oil in the Spratlys: no matter how much our politicrocodiles whine diplomatically, the ChiComs will not care: they will - the sooner or later - take what they want. |
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"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei “When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven’t got any.” - G. K. Chesterton MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you. | |
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| Hitman | May 20 2011, 04:29 AM Post #529 |
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I cannot emphasize this more, we need a few mid size or small attack subs, owning or having a sub is like engaging the superior enemy in guerilla warfare. its invisible even with sonars or ASW, a good sub and crew can hide and wait. For all we know we Chinese subs probably been inside our territory a dozen times and already know its way in and out like their own. I am against the return of the US bases because once they are here its very hard to ask them out. Its like an occupation force. Im not only against US bases but any foreign bases in our country. Strong military alliances and cooperation are better. besides the presence of US bases is not a guarantee that they will repel China once it seize one of our reefs or islets rich in oil. Leasing some F18 or F16 with rent to own is not a bad idea. We should also look for some other countries who are willing to make such deals or barter trade in exchange for fighter jets. But if true that the oil discovery in Palawan has deposits like that of Iraq then we should have some lots of cash in near future and can apply for loans for the acquisitions of newer logistics and weaponry. |
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| Marschall | May 20 2011, 04:38 AM Post #530 |
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The easiest low-cost "solution" at the moment is to deploy MANPADs on the islands of the Kalayaan Groups. That will stop the jets from flying over our islands - at least for a certain altitude. As for foreign bases: I think they could generate extra income and also extra protection. I wouldn't have any issues with them. Let's be honest: the AFP is currently incapable of protecting the country anyways. |
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"THE BEST PARENT AND GUARDIAN OF LIBERTY AMONGST MEN IS TRUTH" ~ Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei “When learned men begin to use their reason, then I generally discover that they haven’t got any.” - G. K. Chesterton MSantor is not a man of sound reason. Savages have always preferred the club for they know that they are powerless against the pen. But who is the greater fool - the savage or the one that gives him power? May Truth rebuke you. | |
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