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| The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones? | |
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| fatbat_mca | Mar 16 2009, 11:31 AM Post #181 |
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Any pic and additional info on this "converted naval rescue ship" that China sent to patrol its EEZ? |
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| Rapidfire | Mar 16 2009, 12:05 PM Post #182 |
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Could be this one, the Haixun 11, its most advanced maritime patrol ship: |
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| seWer Rat | Mar 16 2009, 12:36 PM Post #183 |
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so their OPVs are painted like coast guard ships. I don't see a forward deck gun. Is this vessel armed? Hey Israeli, you can sink this with a vinta..
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| seWer Rat | Mar 16 2009, 12:44 PM Post #184 |
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the pen is always mightier than the sword RP will resort to diplomacy over renewed Spratlys row http://www.gmanews.tv/story/152840/RP-will...ed-Spratlys-row 03/16/2009 | 08:15 AM MANILA, Philippines - Admitting it cannot do much, the Philippines will resort to diplomacy in defusing what appears to be a renewed row with China over a disputed part of the Spratly Islands. But National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales said Monday they may also ask help from allies such as the United States and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) if needed. “Noong araw pag may ganyang nangyayari binobomba ng Air Force natin kaagad. E sa ngayon wala na tayong pangbomba. Kaya ngayon ito kuwan sa atin pahatid ito nararapat ang AFP bigyan natin ng tulong at maiayos ang ating gamit," he said in an interview on dzBB radio. [Before, our Air Force could have bombed structures of other countries in the disputed area. But now we don’t even have the resources to conduct the bombings. We may have to modernize our Armed Forces] When told that China’s act of sending warships to patrol the Spratlys is tantamount to bullying, Gonzales said, “Wala tayong magagawa. Pero sa ngayon ang ating gagamitin ang ating diplomasya [We cannot do anything about it. What we can do now is resort to diplomacy]." China had sent patrol ships to the disputed Spratly Islands, after protesting the signing of the Philippine baselines act that included the Kalayaan Islands. Gonzales said that with the baselines law, the proper forum should now be the United Nations. When asked if the Philippines will protest the presence of the Chinese patrol ship, he said a protest is not the proper thing to do at this time. He said that at this time, a protest may not be the right thing to do, and that other mechanisms should be explored in dealing with the problem. But he added that the Philippines has the right to defend itself. On the other hand, he said the Philippines can seek help from the United States and the Asean. “Hindi lang sa USA, sa Asean. Marami tayong nilagdaan na iba’t ibang document pagkakaisa pagkakaibigan para magkaroon ng ganyang usapin daanan natin diyan [Not just the US but the Asean. We have signed so many agreements that we can now avail of]," he said, but did not elaborate. - GMANews.TV |
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| valiant | Mar 16 2009, 12:55 PM Post #185 |
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sad but true...there Israeli, other than going to war alone, the position of the government and therefore the AFP, is very clear. |
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| truegrit | Mar 16 2009, 02:59 PM Post #186 |
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Its a Start of SOMETHING BIG. At least politically we show China that we mean business about our sovereignty in the Spratlys area. Not just Watch them crawling under our nose like the Mischief Reef. |
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| Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP | Mar 16 2009, 05:16 PM Post #187 |
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It's getting funny and ridiculous now that the Philippines assertion of sovereign jurisdiction over the Spratlys is at the mercy of China. Why can't this be resolved thru international judicial forum with all claimants required to show proof the the island belong to their territory to settle the claim once and for all ? |
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| israeli | Mar 16 2009, 06:25 PM Post #188 |
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AFTER CHINA SENDS PATROL BOAT Manila may seek US, ASEAN support on Spratlys By Christian V. Esguerra Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 15:28:00 03/16/2009 MANILA, Philippines -- Malacañang said it might seek the help of its traditional military ally, the United States, and other Southeast Asian countries in dealing with China’s deployment of a patrol boat to disputed territories in the South China Sea. “Our national security advisers are already looking into other options,” Lorelei Fajardo, deputy presidential spokesperson, said in a press briefing on Monday. “If we really need to ask the help of our allies and the other countries in the ASEAN [Association of Southeast Asian Nations], then we might be forced to do so.” But Fajardo maintained that diplomacy would still be the first option in resolving the problem and that the issue of conflicting claims to the Spratlys Islands should be resolved at the level of the United Nations. Still, she added, “as much as we would like this to be settled in the United Nations, of course the Philippine government has also to be prepared for whatever will happen.” “We cannot just depend on the United Nations as much as that should be the first line of defense [which is] diplomacy, but of course we have to protect our sovereignty as much as China is doing now,” she said. |
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| israeli | Mar 16 2009, 06:26 PM Post #189 |
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AFTER CHINA SENDS PATROL BOAT Manila may seek US, ASEAN support on Spratlys By Christian V. Esguerra Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 15:28:00 03/16/2009 MANILA, Philippines -- Malacañang said it might seek the help of its traditional military ally, the United States, and other Southeast Asian countries in dealing with China’s deployment of a patrol boat to disputed territories in the South China Sea. “Our national security advisers are already looking into other options,” Lorelei Fajardo, deputy presidential spokesperson, said in a press briefing on Monday. “If we really need to ask the help of our allies and the other countries in the ASEAN [Association of Southeast Asian Nations], then we might be forced to do so.” But Fajardo maintained that diplomacy would still be the first option in resolving the problem and that the issue of conflicting claims to the Spratlys Islands should be resolved at the level of the United Nations. Still, she added, “as much as we would like this to be settled in the United Nations, of course the Philippine government has also to be prepared for whatever will happen.” “We cannot just depend on the United Nations as much as that should be the first line of defense [which is] diplomacy, but of course we have to protect our sovereignty as much as China is doing now,” she said. |
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| Kampilan | Mar 16 2009, 08:24 PM Post #190 |
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For chrissakes, it's just a patrol boat! Too much ado about nothing, valiant is right, some of us are just too paranoid. The US will never allow China to establish a dominant presence in the SCS so let's sleep soundly tonight. |
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