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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (155,940 Views)
Tsukiyomi
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We have them on the defensive. Time to push the issue and utilize our reef. If we do not go to our reef we are saying we agree to their control of it.
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Tsukiyomi
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Para, the Chinese can never be trusted. Only a fool would believe their crap about a peaceful rise and other such propaganda BS. They have been screwing with our country for decades.
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dewey
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they say some something up front but do another thing out back. never can be trusted! :brrt:
IDI@T!!! COWARD!!!
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Tsukiyomi
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The Chinese commies are like hookers; When you go to your CR in your hotel room, make sure they are clapping their hands so you know they are not stealing your stuff. :lollol:
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pachador


part 1 - mischief reef - pinabayaan natin kasi fishermens shelters lang daw - ayun , naging concrete forts na ngayon

part 2 - scarborough shoal - kung bumigay tayo dito o mag-papusong mamon(alam mo na ang pinoy - short memory), alam na ninyo ang susunod

part 3 - recto bank

part 4 - palawan

part 5 -

part 6 -
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I'm sorry if my statement is too enterprising. Seriously, I was only looking out for the most peaceful way possible. Verbal yet physically peaceful wars are the best considerations of warfare.

We're not sadists, who immediately want war and rejoice seeing so many dead people. Before we consider war, consider peace.

But, if the only solution is war, then so be it. I'm just speaking the least destructive course of action. It's a turn of heart after what I've seen.
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May 15 2012, 12:54 AM
OMG! Ano yan HOLD UP! or BRIBERY??
If this were true, I have a feeling that a prophecy of a known Filipino Psychic may/ will come true.. "that PNoy won't be able to finish his term of office as President?"

How is the President's term of office related to the Scarborough issue?

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Tsukiyomi
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Para.enterprising would not be the right word for what you stated...

I think the better words would have been naive and optimistic; naively optimistic.

War sucks and results in a lot of waste. Only bankers and the defense companies win.

The problem is when you deal with a country like China, you cannot back down. For every inch you give up, they will take the proverbial mile.

Their doctrine in dealing with other nations is characterized by dishonesty followed by force. The only thing I believe the Chinese about is when they say that they will use force because history has demonstrated they will. Anything else out of their mouths is no different than a politician on a campaign trail.

Please take the time to read and understand Chinese history and you will get a much clearer vision of the future.
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Frenzy
May 15 2012, 02:39 PM
AVBsupersonic
May 15 2012, 12:54 AM
OMG!  Ano yan HOLD UP! or BRIBERY?? 
If this were true, I have a feeling that a prophecy of a known Filipino Psychic  may/ will come true..  "that PNoy won't be able to finish his term of office as President?"

How is the President's term of office related to the Scarborough issue?

That, meaning on the account of PNoy and his Govt. tries to agree, giving China the equality or upper hand to it's claims on Baho de Masinloc.
I believe many Filipinos won't agree to accept China's proposal or "orders" of Fishing Ban in our territory, maybe.. many will become angry especially the Military as well that may/can result to uprising or Coup, impeachment etc. To LOSE Scarborough will be a very Big problem, to cede our total claims to the area which is basically Philippine Territory will be a very big problem for PNoy and his Govt.
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Philippines to take up China row in Asean

MANILA, Philippines – The Philippines plans to raise anew its territorial dispute with China at an upcoming meeting among senior officials of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) and the United States.
This was indicated in a dialogue fact sheet furnished by the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) which said participants at the meeting, scheduled for May 20 to 22, would “exchange views on regional and international developments.”
Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario Tuesday told the Inquirer the dialogue was “a regular meeting aimed at enhancing the relations of both sides and charting the course of Asean-US partnership.”
Foreign Undersecretary for Policy Erlinda Basilio and Kurt Campbell, assistant secretary for East Asia and the Pacific of the US State Department, will co-chair the meeting.
The fact sheet noted that the Philippines is the “country coordinator for Asean-US dialogue relations from 2009 to 2012,” and that the US is “one of the longstanding dialogue partners of Asean, having established relations with the multilateral body in 1977.”
The meeting will “review the progress in Asean-US cooperation and exchange views on regional and international developments, including the preparations of the 4th Asean-US leaders’ meeting in November.”
It also expected to “review Asean-US relations and recommend future actions, including opportunities to enhance cooperation on regional and global issues; strengthen cooperation and coordination in specific sectors, such as trade and investment, disaster response and energy security; and identify new steps for the effective implementation of the decisions of previous Asean-US leaders’ meetings and the plan of action to implement the joint declaration on enhanced Asean-US partnership,” the fact sheet said.
The militant Bagong Alyansang Makabayan (Bayan) said the Philippines, being the “US errand boy in Asean,” would be expected to take up these issues in line with US interests.
“The Philippine government may take up its dispute with China, but this would be framed within American interests, like an increased US military presence in Southeast Asia. While the US may downplay its role in the dispute with China, it obviously seeks a greater presence in the region, using the dispute as another pretext even via a multilateral body like Asean. This poses complications and may even escalate tensions,” said Bayan secretary general Renato Reyes Jr.

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