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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (155,956 Views)
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China's official support vessel for its international poaching operations.


China has pledged to build a stronger fleet of fishery administration ships with higher tonnage in a bid to better safeguard its sea territory and fishermen.

The vow came as the country's fastest fishery administration vessel, China Yuzheng 310, made its maiden voyage from Guangzhou on Tuesday to cruise around the East China Sea waters near the Diaoyu Islands.

The 2,580-ton vessel, with a highest speed of 22 nautical miles (40.7 kilometers) per hour and a cruising radius of 6,000 nautical miles, can carry 56 people aboard and sail 60 days nonstop.

Equipped with modern communication apparatus and a Z-9A helicopter, the vessel is the third official Chinese ship that has been sent to the Diaoyu Islands since the country normalized its cruise to protect Chinese fishermen operating around the area.


http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/7201736.html
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Not sure if confirmed, very short info.

Chinese Varyag aircraft carrier sea trials again today

http://www.cnmilitary.info/chinese-varyag-...ls-again-today/
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Justice for Daniel Lorenz Jacinto

HELP END PIRACY NOW!:
http://www.itfseafarers.org/petition.cfm
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China's FLEC patrol ship Yuzheng 310 has arrived at Scarborough Shoal today bringing the total number of Chinese vessels to 3 against a LONE vessel from the PCG, I wonder how will the DND react to this situation after giving a warning earlier ... :armycool:


http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34093/chi...isputed-islands


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Apr 20 2012, 04:34 PM
Stay out of exclusive economic zone, Philippines warns China boat

MANILA, Philippines - The Department of National Defense on Friday called on the Chinese government not to derail any ongoing diplomatic talks on the Scarborough (Panatag) Shoal standoff with the deployment of a powerful gunboat to the West Philippine Sea.

DND spokesman Peter Paul Galvez said as long as the powerful Yuzheng 310, a fishery patrol boat, does not enter the Philippines' 200-mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ), there will be "no problem."

"We are optimistic that our neighbor China will not do actions that may derail the ongoing diplomatic initiatives toward a peaceful resolution at Scarborough Shoal," Galvez told reporters.

On Thursday Chinese state media reported that the Yuzheng 310 was deployed to secure Chinese fishermen in the West Philippine Sea. This, even as a stalemate between Beijing and Manila over fishing rights that started April 10 at Scarborough Shoal remained unresolved.

Galvez clarified Friday that the Yuzheng 310 will not be deployed at Scarborough Shoal.

"Chinese media reported that it will be deployed to the West Philippine Sea but it did not state Scarborough Shoal, so as long as it stays in international waters there will be no problem," Galvez said.

"But when it goes within the EEZ that's a different story," he added.

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TonyStark2020
Apr 20 2012, 04:44 PM
That's GOOD! Finally nice to hear some bold and "Viagracious" words coming from DND. :urock:  :defense:

To fire at a vessel for trespassing is not an act of war but an act of protecting our sovereignty! :patrioticpinoy:




China beefs up presence near Scarborough- China Yuzheng 310 Gun Boat is in Bajo Masinloc area..

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BEIJING - A large patrol ship arrived on Friday in disputed waters off the coast of the Philippines, China's state media said, beefing up Beijing's presence in a tense 10-day stand-off.

The Philippines and China have both dispatched vessels as they lay claim to a group of islands in the South China Sea that is about 120 nautical miles west of the main Philippine island of Luzon.

It is one of the most high-profile flare-ups in recent years between the two countries over their competing territorial claims to parts of the South China Sea, which is believed to sit atop vast oil and gas deposits.

The row erupted on April 10 when Chinese vessels blocked a Philippine warship from arresting crews of Chinese fishing boats in the area and spiked this week when Chinese boats were accused of harassing a research ship.

Beijing, however, claims the warship hassled the fishing boats, which it says were taking refuge from harsh weather in a lagoon. China has also urged the archaeological research vessel to "leave the area immediately".

China has already sent several civilian patrol boats to the disputed group of islands known in the Philippines as Scarborough Shoal and called Huangyan island in Chinese.

On Friday, a 108-metre (350 feet) high-tech civilian patrol boat also arrived to "protect the country's interests in territorial waters", the Chinese state Xinhua news agency said.

"The Yuzheng-310 will conduct routine patrols in waters off the coast of Huangyan Island, so as to protect China's sea rights and ensure the safety of Chinese fishermen," it quoted the South China Sea Fishery Bureau as saying.

China says that it has sovereign rights to all of the South China Sea, even waters close to the coast of other countries and hundreds of kilometres from its own landmass.

The Philippines says it has sovereign rights over areas of the sea within its 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, and that its position is supported by international law.


O P.Noy Govt. DND now what? Akala ko ba eh ano? It's a different story? "There will be problems!" O we get it.. "It's again just a different story lang pala.." Still No actions with a much bigger problem. :dunno:
I AM NOT PINOY, "I AM A FILIPINO" There is a BiG difference!
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International law should be enforced, if not, nobody is going to follow the international laws anymore, like Commonwealth road.
Modernization should prioritize:

Patrol Ships with air/sub/ship detection, fast & lightly armed for Navy.
Surface Attack Aircraft with anti ship/sub attack capability for Airforce.
SAM with Radars, Close AA battery capable of shooting ground targets too for Army.
This triangle defense will work together and protect us from external threats.
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Apr 20 2012, 07:31 PM
O P.Noy Govt. DND now what? Akala ko ba eh ano?  It's a different story? "There will be problems!"  O we get it..  "It's again just a different story lang pala.."  Still No actions with a much bigger problem. :dunno:

Member ka ba ng AFP? kung member ka please ask to be transfer in our territory in Spratly Island para nasa frontline ka.

Mukha kasing init na init kang mag-simula ng giyera.
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http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/04/20/12...-spratlys-claim

MANILA, Philippines - Chinese authorities have failed to identify specific historical evidence backing Beijing's claims that it owns disputed islands in the West Philippine Sea, a confidential US embassy cable published by anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said.

Cable 08BEIJING3499, sent to Washington by the US embassy in Beijing in September 9, 2008, said a Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) official and a local scholar could not identify specific historical records to justify China's "Nine Dashes" claim that covers the whole Spratlys and areas within other countries' exclusive economic zones (EEZs).

MFA Department of Treaty and Law Oceans and Law of the Sea Division Deputy Director Yin Wenqiang told a US embassy political officer on August 30, 2008 that "China has indisputable sovereignty over the islands in the South China Sea and the adjacent waters."

However, the US official said "Yin admitted he is not aware of the historical basis for the 'Nine Dashes'" and only mentioned unspecified "Chinese historical documents" that indicate the basis for China's claims on territory west of the Philippines, according to the cable.

The US official also talked to Beijing University Asia scholar Yang Baoyun about China's claims.

Yang said China's claims "date back to ancient times, prior to the development of the modern nation-state."

"Neither MFA's Yin nor Beijing University's Yang could specify a historical document that indicated the basis for the demarcation of the 'Nine Dashes'," the cable added.

Yang referred to a 2000 MFA "white paper" on the Spratlys. "However, the white paper devotes little attention to the history of the "Nine Dashes," providing, for example, only vague references to areas frequented by Chinese fisherman from Hainan," the memo said.

China skirts UN pact

Although China is a signatory to the 1982 UN Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), it will not attempt to verify its claims before the mechanism, said the MFA official as quoted by the US memo.

"China will not refer its SCS [South China Sea] claim to dispute settlement procedures established in UNCLOS, because, Yin said, 'it is not in China's tradition' to submit to such compulsory or binding decision mechanisms," the cable said.

"When queried as to why China acceded to UNCLOS, Yin commented that China became a signatory nation because neighboring countries in the SCS joined, and China believes its SCS claim is not threatened by UNCLOS," it added.

While China declared a 12-nautical-mile baseline around the Paracel Islands and along its mainland coast in 1996, Yin said his government China has no plans to declare a baseline around any of the Spratly Islands, the memo revealed.

The Chinese official said his country's claim "came much earlier than UNCLOS" and "UNCLOS cannot clarify everything."
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Apr 20 2012, 10:45 PM
Member ka ba ng AFP? kung member ka please ask to be transfer in our territory in Spratly Island para nasa frontline ka.

Mukha kasing init na init kang mag-simula ng giyera.

bakit? Nagcomment lang ako sa sinabi ng DND^^! Eh ikaw, Intsik ka ba.?
"To fire on a vessel for trespassing is not an act of war, but an act of protecting our Country's sovereignty!
"You will not appear to be such a victim when you walk purposefully and with a 'don't you dare attitude.'

Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, ito lang ang paraan para tumigil ang China sa pag bully sa atin at ito rin ang paraan para mapansin tayo ng mga International Community.
Try and check any Newspaper Company, Media in Western Countries right now even if they have any news updates regarding the situation on PH, China standoff in Scarborough shoal WPS, isang beses lang ibinalita yung una pa after that kung titingnan mo parang they are turning blind eye on the issue and as if they don't give a damn if it's about the Philippines tapos against China pa? Major Creditor of most of these Countries.. We can resemble this to Rich, Oligarchs against an ordinary Filipino, some Rich Countries in some way looking after each other against a poor Country.. :dunno:

The only Media's that are active are in SE A.... Better to have more deeper relations with Power Countries as well that doesn't owe or need China, anything like Japan, India maybe.....
HOPE WE'LL LEARN SOMETHING FROM ALL OF THESE MISTAKES, WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE OUR SYSTEM, GOVERNMENT, TO BE A WISE VOTER, WHO NOT TO VOTE NEXT TIME AND ELECT A WISE AND STRONG LEADER, AN ACHIEVER THAT ONLY CARES FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE FIRST, BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IN ORDER FOR US TO GROW AND BE A PROUD COUNTRY, A PROUD FILIPINO ONCE AGAIN.
Hope for everything to change for the best and for all Filipino race in the Whole World to unite and be SOLIDLY ONE!
I AM NOT PINOY, "I AM A FILIPINO" There is a BiG difference!
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Apr 21 2012, 01:38 AM
Maubanin70
Apr 20 2012, 10:45 PM
Member ka ba ng AFP? kung member ka please ask to be transfer in our territory in Spratly Island para nasa frontline ka.

Mukha kasing init na init kang mag-simula ng giyera.

bakit? Nagcomment lang ako sa sinabi ng DND^^! Eh ikaw, Intsik ka ba.?
"To fire on a vessel for trespassing is not an act of war, but an act of protecting our Country's sovereignty!
"You will not appear to be such a victim when you walk purposefully and with a 'don't you dare attitude.'

Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, ito lang ang paraan para tumigil ang China sa pag bully sa atin at ito rin ang paraan para mapansin tayo ng mga International Community.
Try and check any Newspaper Company, Media in Western Countries right now even if they have any news updates regarding the situation on PH, China standoff in Scarborough shoal WPS, isang beses lang ibinalita yung una pa after that kung titingnan mo parang they are turning blind eye on the issue and as if they don't give a damn if it's about the Philippines tapos against China pa? Major Creditor of most of these Countries.. We can resemble this to Rich, Oligarchs against an ordinary Filipino, some Rich Countries in some way looking after each other against a poor Country.. :dunno:

The only Media's that are active are in SE A.... Better to have more deeper relations with Power Countries as well that doesn't owe or need China, anything like Japan, India maybe.....
HOPE WE'LL LEARN SOMETHING FROM ALL OF THESE MISTAKES, WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE OUR SYSTEM, GOVERNMENT, TO BE A WISE VOTER, WHO NOT TO VOTE NEXT TIME AND ELECT A WISE AND STRONG LEADER, AN ACHIEVER THAT ONLY CARES FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE FIRST, BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IN ORDER FOR US TO GROW AND BE A PROUD COUNTRY, A PROUD FILIPINO ONCE AGAIN.
Hope for everything to change for the best and for all Filipino race in the Whole World to unite and be SOLIDLY ONE!

Not a Chinese. Ilan ba race ng Filipino? Kase sabi mo sa post mo to unite ALL FILIPINO RACES? Alam ko kasi iisa lang ang Filipino race.

So you are suggesting to shoot and stop all diplomatic process? Kahit alam mo na China is consider one of the major powers. Then pag-nagsimula na shooting wars ano gagawin natin?

Think before you type.. tapang mo kasi palibhasa ala ka sa Frontline.
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I meant Filipinos naturalized or born (w/ Filipino blood) in other Countries... :armyroleyes:
I AM NOT PINOY, "I AM A FILIPINO" There is a BiG difference!
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