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| The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones? | |
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| seWer Rat | Feb 23 2012, 12:08 PM Post #1281 |
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PH, China can 'give & take' over South China Sea, says retired Chinese envoy by Willard Cheng, ABS-CBN News Posted at 02/23/2012 7:52 AM | Updated as of 02/23/2012 7:52 AM http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/02/22/12...d-chinese-envoy Joint exploration of South China Sea 'mutually beneficial' for PH and China MANILA, Philippines - For a retired and former Chinese ambassador to the Philippines, joint exploration of the disputed islands in the South China Sea is the “mutually beneficial” option for the claimant countries. While stressing that it is his personal opinion, Wang Yingfan, who served as Chinese ambassador to the Philippines from July 1988 to October 1990, echoed the policy of the Chinese government on the territorial disputes first put forward by the late Chinese paramount leader Deng Xiaoping in the 80s. Wang believes that joint exploration of the resources in the South China Sea is acceptable, saying that both sides will not agree to give up any territorial claim. He said this is also true with territorial disputes involving China and other ASEAN countries claiming parts of South China Sea and the one involving Japan over the Senkaku/ Diaoyutai islands. |
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| dewey | Feb 23 2012, 01:29 PM Post #1282 |
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imho. china is hell bent on getting its hands on spratlys. why would they share it if they think its rightly theirs? the diplomatic talk is just a strategy to explore it and secretly harvest whats in there. once there is an agreement for joint exploration, there is no stopping them. we cant even police their drug lords here how much more policing them out there? if there is such thing as an underwater drilling platform, maybe there is a plan for them to have it built underwater as we dont have the capacity to detect it. but its just me
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| Santi Kampilan | Feb 23 2012, 02:09 PM Post #1283 |
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Remember now the Spratlys is labeled as a "core interest" similar to Tibet and Taiwan. It is absolutely non-negotiable. Do you think they don't have an underlying reason that is different? Remember also that in 1995 when they stole Mischief Reef their reasoning was that they were simply building a shed for their fishermen. Now that shed is a fortress bristling with radar and gun emplacements. Their warships hide there when they are being chased. We believed them and we got tricked! Do we want to be tricked again? Station the Okinawa US Marines in Ulugan Bay together with the LCS's and our ex-Hamiltons! Let us keep and guard what is ours! Let us keep an eye on those Chicoms less than 100km from Palawan shores. |
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| fatbat_mca | Feb 23 2012, 06:21 PM Post #1284 |
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PCG, PN Jointly Conduct Offshore Patrol On Philippine West Sea By YUL MALICSE February 23, 2012, 2:33pm MANILA, Philippines — The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) and the Philippine Navy (PN) will jointly conduct offshore patrol on Philippine West Sea (PWS), a task mandated under the newly-created National Coast Watch System (NCWS) by virtue of Executive Order No. 57, signed and issued by President Benigno C. Aquino III last September. Addressing the PCG graduating class of Advance Boarding Officers’ Course (ABOC) conducted by the United States Coast Guard (USCG) Mobile Training Team held at the PCG headquarters last week, newly-named PCG chief of staff Commodore Aaron T. Reconquista said, of late, the PCG has been mandated with a leading role in the West Philippine Sea in terms of enforcement of national laws particularly relative to customs, immigration and quarantine (CIQ). Reconquista underscored the US team of instructors for sharing their expertise, knowledge and skills with the PCG, particularly the members of PCG special operations group (SOG) headed by Cdr. Marco Antonio Gines, who, undoubtedly acquired knowledge and skills from the four-week training course – two weeks spent in training instructors-counterparts, and two weeks in training new 26 students on advance boarding course. “We are indebted to the US government for extending to us this assistance and to the United States Coast Guard (ASCG) mobile training team facilitated by the US embassy staff,” he said. He extended the warm felicitations and words of thanks of the whole PCG headed by its commandant Vice Admiral Edmund C. Tan to US embassy deputy economic counselor Mr. Brent Christensen, US charge’ d Affaires Ms. Leslie Basset, Export control and Boarding Security (EXBS)regional advisor Mike Mcnamara, US naval attache to the Philippines Capt. Jack Sotherland, and the entire USCG Mobile training team for the time they shared with the PCG, who benefited from the training course. The conduct of the ABOC is really quite timely, said Reconquista. “Today’s terrorists are not particularly concern about converts, and rather than wanting a seat at the table, they want to destroy the table and everyone sitting on it,!” stressed the PCG chief of staff. Reconquista, an alumnus of Philippine Military Academy (PMA) and the United States Coast Guard Academy (USCGA), disclosed that the 2nd USCG cutter will be handed over to the Philippine Navy soon. Expressing excitement, he told US brass present at the rites, “perhaps through your representation, the 3rd USCG cutter would be for the PCG, as the trend in maritime law enforcement is shifting to law enforcer operators like the Coast Guard, in contrast to the aggressive nature of the ‘gray ships.” President Benigno Aquino III created the National Coast Watch System (NCWS) to expand the country’s naval and maritime security operations to preserve the Philippine territory, protect its people and resources from maritime threats, through Executive Order No. 57 that has made the NCWS the ‘central inter-agency mechanism’ for a more coordinated approach on maritime issues, and security operations, to enhance governance of the country’s maritime domain.’ http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/352259/pcg-p...ippine-west-sea |
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| AVBsupersonic | Feb 23 2012, 08:45 PM Post #1285 |
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"Give and take" Maybe? that's if and only in Spratlys/ KIG area and if they can agree to stay away from our EEZ Territories and move out of Mischief Reef, then maybe??? But, I don't think this is going to happen.. these times right now are so precious and can't be wasted, we should really concentrate on building up a formidable Armed Forces without any limitations from any foreign Country, with a substantial budget enough to fulfil the acquisitions of formidable Military Equipments, "NOT just to settle for the cheapest and lowest quality and specifications we can buy, we should get the best for the Philippines, everything to secure our Country's Lucrative future. For all we know, they are just afraid to give us the chance to be on top of the game, for we do have a lot of virgin untapped natural resources still to be developed, enough for us to turn the wheel of our fortune to the top. There are 3 sides on the table; 1) to go with an umbrella without growth 2) to go with an opportunist bully and fictional enemy of the umbrella 3) to go for all out support for "Self Reliance", "Country first Priority" and dedication for the best of the Country's growth and future. In short this is the only way we can win for our Country's growth, by doing it on our own, for our own interests... |
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| dewey | Feb 23 2012, 10:22 PM Post #1286 |
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phl can really be the next economy to go up, esp with the oil in spratlys and soon the benhan rise. phl could, should and can dictate its own direction to take should the oil in both areas prove to be enormous. oil will be the deciding factor here, and the superpowers needs a lot of it and soon everyone will be at phl's side should the conflict w/ china escalate only to get a taste of it. i dont know if its the right time for it, but phl should use it as a bargaining chip to encourage the defense building nations sell us the needed hardware. or a joint exploration in exchange for defense articles. but its just me
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| THE_NEWS_MAN | Feb 27 2012, 05:56 PM Post #1287 |
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DFA: No to joint development with China The joint development of areas in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) that “are clearly ours is not a viable solution” to our problem with China, according to Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario. As for the potentially resource-rich Spratlys group of islands, the Philippines is “open to considering joint development in the disputed areas,” Del Rosario told the Philippine Daily Inquirer Sunday. Del Rosario said that during his meeting last week with Wang Yingfan and Wang Chungui, two former Chinese ambassadors to the Philippines who were here on a goodwill visit, he “reiterated our position that we are open to inviting China in the Recto Bank as an investor to be governed by [our] laws.” The Recto Bank (Reed Bank), he pointed out, was an “integral part of the Philippines and, as such, cannot be jointly developed.” “To do so would be in violation of our Constitution,” he said. The Recto Bank had drawn China’s interest several months ago when the Philippine Air Force discovered several Chinese vessels in its vicinity. Other option As another option, Del Rosario said “we again asked if China would join us in availing of the dispute settlement mechanism under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,” or Unclos. He said he told his guests the government was “endeavoring to look at all means to arrive at a peaceful solution of the disputes in the West Philippine Sea in accordance with international law, specifically Unclos.” Apart from China’s suggestion that the Philippines revisit the concept of joint development of the Spratlys, the two sides also discussed “how both nations are advancing our bilateral agenda while treating contentious issues separately, and the view that we should not accept all that appear in the press as being factual,” Del Rosario said. According to the secretary, the retired ambassadors were “very appreciative (they) came to enhance our friendship and cooperation.” Earlier, he told this paper that “their visit serves to put substance in the initiative (of China and the Philippines) on friendly visits.” During President Benigno Aquino III’s state visit to Beijing last August, both sides declared 2012 and 2013 the “Years of Friendly Exchanges” between the two Asian neighbors. original web |
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| Ayoshi | Feb 27 2012, 10:57 PM Post #1288 |
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Beijing challenges inclusion of 2 areas in Manila's oil exploration program ![]() MANILA, Philippines – China is challenging the Department of Energy (DOE) plan to auction off two petroleum blocks for exploration in offshore Palawan. Energy Secretary Jose Rene Almendras said Beijing lodged a clarificatory request before the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) with regard to two exploration blocks located near the Spratly Group of Islands. "They filed a request to clarify because they feel that Areas 3 and 4 are part of the Sptratlys," Almendras said, referring to two blocs located in Northwest Palawan that are part of the 15 areas offered under the Philippine Energy Contracting Round (PECR). The PECR has drawn interest from 25 companies, which submitted pre-qualification documents. These include PetroEnergy Resources Corp., Nido Petroluem, PNOC Exploration Corp., MinEnergy, Shell Philippines Exploration B.V., Pitkin Petroleum, Dilmoro Energy Corp., Mindanao Asia Int'l Energy, Southernpec, Forum Pacific, Planet Gas, Monte Oro Resources, Philex Petroleum, Total, ENI, Calenergy, GDF Suez, Golden Dragon, NorAsian, Kris Energy, Esso, Mitra Energy, Tap Oil, Caranarvon Energy and KRX Energy. "We offered 15 service contracts which the Philippines believes is within its territorial claims," Almendras said, adding that the contracts would be awarded this year. These areas include three onshore and 12 offshore blocs having a combined 10 million hectares and spread in Northwest and East Palawan, as well as in the Sulu Sea. "We will let DFA deal with the issue. I'm sure it will have diplomatic complications which I am sure the DFA will be able to handle," the energy chief said. The PECR is aimed at developing the country’s indigenous sources of energy, providing a hedge against rising international prices of crude. The 15 potential service contracts can raise investments of $500 million each for a total of $7.5 billion. SOURCE |
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| Tsukiyomi | Feb 28 2012, 02:41 AM Post #1289 |
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Do not submit any documents to the Chinese government that would allow them to use them against us in any way, shape or form. Do not negotiate with these scum sucking dogs. Those territories are ours and that is not negotiable. Do not discuss joint development with the chicom pigs...they will cheat us. They have done it before and they will do it again. The Chinese have nothing but contempt for us and have no compunction about screwing us over. |
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| Santi Kampilan | Feb 28 2012, 07:33 AM Post #1290 |
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A communist is a communist a communist. Just in the gas fields alone there is a potential of up to $450 Billion dollars to be made assuming the price per thousand cubic feet is $15 ( current Asian price avg.) with a potential of maybe 30 trillion cubic ft. in Recto Bank alone. Worth drying for? You bet it is! Let us defend it with our lives and let us not allow these commies to get an inch. They can invest but they must be under the Philippine law. |
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