Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Philippines Defense Forces Forum. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Locked Topic
The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (155,999 Views)
spearhead
Member Avatar
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer.
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
DFA: Expect friendly exchanges with China
By Jerry E. Esplanada
Philippine Daily Inquirer
1:37 am | Tuesday, January 17th, 2012


Expect more high-level talks and “friendly exchanges” between the Philippines and China in the next two years, according to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).
In a statement, the DFA over the weekend expressed confidence more meetings between Manila and Beijing would follow the just-concluded 17th Philippines-China Foreign Ministry Consultations (FMC) in Beijing.

“The 17th FMC kicked off a series of high-level visits and meetings between the two governments and numerous cultural and people-to-people endeavors during the Philippines-China Years of Friendly Exchanges in 2012 and 2013,” said the foreign office.


Read more.
"Men of War must learn the art of numbers or he will not know how to array his troops." - Plato

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Zero wing
Member Avatar
ZAFT Sepcial Forces Operative for SEA
[ *  *  * ]
spearhead
Jan 17 2012, 07:27 AM
DFA: Expect friendly exchanges with China
By Jerry E. Esplanada
Philippine Daily Inquirer
1:37 am | Tuesday, January 17th, 2012


Expect more high-level talks and “friendly exchanges” between the Philippines and China in the next two years, according to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).
In a statement, the DFA over the weekend expressed confidence more meetings between Manila and Beijing would follow the just-concluded 17th Philippines-China Foreign Ministry Consultations (FMC) in Beijing.

“The 17th FMC kicked off a series of high-level visits and meetings between the two governments and numerous cultural and people-to-people endeavors during the Philippines-China Years of Friendly Exchanges in 2012 and 2013,” said the foreign office.


Read more.

After all that why should we talk to them
"No sacrifice is too great in the service of freedom."

“As long as we are not willing to provide an adequate, suitable and capable defense for this country, we will be oppressed, demeaned and dishonored. We will be the stepping mat of every country in this region,”(Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile)

“Just because we are a very weak country militarily, we should not be taken advantage of by more powerful countries" (Senate committee on national defense and security chairman Panfilo Lacson)
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
truegrit


Alam nyo kahit anong talks gagawin...still China has already put into Decree that part of the West Philippine sea is Chinese territory and for them its Irrevocable...

Kaya its better to just prepare and not waste our diplomatic effort and time coz for China an aggreement is just a piece of paper...
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Zero wing
Member Avatar
ZAFT Sepcial Forces Operative for SEA
[ *  *  * ]
gritpaladin
Jan 17 2012, 11:49 PM
Alam nyo kahit anong talks gagawin...still China has already put into Decree that part of the West Philippine sea is Chinese territory and for them its Irrevocable...

Kaya its better to just prepare and not waste our diplomatic effort and time coz for China an aggreement is just a piece of paper...

Yes i agree we should take time prepare
"No sacrifice is too great in the service of freedom."

“As long as we are not willing to provide an adequate, suitable and capable defense for this country, we will be oppressed, demeaned and dishonored. We will be the stepping mat of every country in this region,”(Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile)

“Just because we are a very weak country militarily, we should not be taken advantage of by more powerful countries" (Senate committee on national defense and security chairman Panfilo Lacson)
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
pachador


gritpaladin
Jan 17 2012, 11:49 PM
Alam nyo kahit anong talks gagawin...still China has already put into Decree that part of the West Philippine sea is Chinese territory and for them its Irrevocable...

Kaya its better to just prepare and not waste our diplomatic effort and time coz for China an aggreement is just a piece of paper...

very true indeed. its in their law na so they would be violating their constitution if they give up their giant spratly claim

that means that all these friendly exchanges is ---> nag-bobolahan lang.

better be ready as best as we can so no regrets later. better to try than not to try.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
AVBsupersonic
Member Avatar
Member
[ *  *  * ]
Very true indeed!

Even before when they sent their High Govt and Military officials to meet PNoy in Malacanang while at the same time doing something fishy in WPS, they lied infront of PNoy's face so I believe this is just more of a show off for the International Community to see...
"Some are just lucky that they're not under oath and are not classified!"- Blue badge
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Samir_Duran
THE GHOST
[ *  *  * ]
We should work on both - diplomatic and military. The Philippines is doing good on playing China's game of diplomatic meetings. This will buy us time in preparing militarily. Even though China has already made it into law that the whole South China sea is their territory it is still at the mercy of higher international laws. Do not worry on that part as the UN still exist.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Zero wing
Member Avatar
ZAFT Sepcial Forces Operative for SEA
[ *  *  * ]
TagaLaguna
Jan 18 2012, 11:09 AM
We should work on both - diplomatic and military. The Philippines is doing good on playing China's game of diplomatic meetings. This will buy us time in preparing militarily. Even though China has already made it into law that the whole South China sea is their territory it is still at the mercy of higher international laws. Do not worry on that part as the UN still exist.

But the insults and the threats we should respond in kind.
"No sacrifice is too great in the service of freedom."

“As long as we are not willing to provide an adequate, suitable and capable defense for this country, we will be oppressed, demeaned and dishonored. We will be the stepping mat of every country in this region,”(Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile)

“Just because we are a very weak country militarily, we should not be taken advantage of by more powerful countries" (Senate committee on national defense and security chairman Panfilo Lacson)
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Mckoyzzz
Member Avatar
Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
PDFF Mod Group
AP Interview: Admiral concerned about South China Sea
By AUDREY McAVOY | Associated Press


PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii (AP) — The U.S. Navy's top commander in the Pacific says he's concerned local arguments in disputed oil rich waters near the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea could escalate into larger, more serious confrontations.
Adm. Patrick Walsh said Tuesday there's potential for an incident in the South China Sea to intensify much the way tensions between China and Japan spiked after ships belonging to the Asian powers collided near the Senkaku or Diaoyu islands claimed by both nations in 2010.

"Quickly the event escalated from something that was local, containable, manageable, to something that became a state-on-state sort of conflict," Walsh told The Associated Press in an interview at his headquarters a few days before he is scheduled to retire and hand over the Pacific Fleet command.

Walsh said the South China Sea — which is heavily traveled by shipping companies, including tankers transporting oil from the Persian Gulf to East Asian nations — is vital to the Asia-Pacific region.

"No matter which perspective you adopt, it's critically important for security and stability. It is the critical node to all the economic activity. Any interruption there would create a real problem," Walsh said.

Six Asian nations — Brunei, China, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Vietnam — claim all or part of the Spratlys, which are believed to be rich in natural resources.

The Philippines and Vietnam have accused Chinese vessels of repeatedly intruding into areas they claim and of trying to sabotage oil explorations in their territorial waters. China has denied the allegations, saying it has sovereignty over the vast sea.

Walsh said the countries have a dilemma in that they risk losing resources if they don't patrol and enforce their exclusive economic zones, yet risk a confrontation if they do.

To compound the situation, he noted countries in the area are also growing an interest in obtaining more advanced weaponry.

"Now you have all the ingredients of an escalatory situation," he said.
Walsh recalled the incident two years ago when a Chinese fishing vessel collided with a Japanese coast guard ship on patrol.

Japan arrested the Chinese captain, after which Beijing suspended ministerial-level contacts with Tokyo, and postponed talks on the joint development of undersea natural gas fields. China later halted Japan-bound exports of rare earth metals used in high-tech manufacturing. Several anti-Japanese demonstrations occurred across China.

The captain was later released and sent back to China after heavy pressure from Beijing.

Walsh said a lot of the tension resulted from the threat of embargo on rare earth metals.

"Just how quickly that escalated — it inflamed passions on both sides," he said. "That's my concern."

Walsh said the U.S. should be very clear that it supports peaceful resolutions to disputes. One way to support this, he said, would be to sponsor regional forums where nations can discuss these issues.

He lamented that China has a "checkered record" of participating in international forums like these.

"The approach that I'm suggesting here is one that is very inclusive. Those that opt out, who don't participate are really limiting themselves to a very narrow interpretation of what is acceptable in terms of norms and behavior," he said.

Vice Adm. Cecil Haney is due to succeed Haney as the commander of the Pacific Fleet at a ceremony in Pearl Harbor on Friday.

Walsh, 57, said he's moving back to his hometown of Dallas after 34 years in the Navy.

Link
Posted Image
"Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong -- Dandemis"
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
THE_NEWS_MAN
Member
[ *  *  * ]
US presence to ease West Philippine Sea tensions -- DND spokesman

MANILA, Philippines -- (UPDATE, 6 p.m.) United States presence over the disputed West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) can help create stability in the region, a spokesman for the defense department said.

Reacting to reports that US Senators led by John McCain (Arizona) and Joseph Liberman are pushing for more joint military exercises in the Philippines, Peter Paul Galvez said this would help the country boost its maritime security.

"The Department believes that their presence would lead to stability in the region including the West Philippine Sea," Galvez told reporters.

He also said the number of American troops stationed in the country will not increase even as
the United States plans to revitalize its strong presence in Asia Pacific amid the rising influence
of China in the region, where several claimants are in dispute over the resource-rich Spratly Islands.

“(There would be) no increase of US troops but there will be increase of military exercises between our Armed Forces and US forces. The increased presence, we believe, would help [us secure our] maritime [territorial rights] against intrusions and other related violations such as poaching,” Galvez said in a phone interview.

At present, the military would not disclose how many US troops were stationed in some camps in Mindanao as part of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) with the US.

US forces deployed in Mindanao, the military claimed, were helping them in terms of sharing
knowledge, training and sophisticated intelligence gathering against global terrorism.

FULL ARTICLE (CLICK HERE)

I DONT know if this article has been posted, but o well il just take my chances .
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
2 users reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · West Philippine Sea · Next Topic »
Locked Topic