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| The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones? | |
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| THE_NEWS_MAN | Jan 13 2012, 07:18 AM Post #1241 |
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China, Philippines to meet over West Philippine Sea BEIJING—China and the Philippines, which exchanged verbal barbs recently over areas in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) they both claim, will meet this weekend to discuss their dispute. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told reporters Thursday that diplomats will meet Saturday to discuss ways to ease tensions. Earlier this month, Manila protested over three Chinese vessels that allegedly intruded into its waters in December. China called the accusations “groundless” and said China has indisputable sovereignty over the area. Liu reiterated China’s position Thursday, saying it claims the area on historical grounds, and that the two sides should resolve the dispute through dialogue and negotiation. China claims all of the West Philippine Sea, while Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines also have claims over potentially oil- and gas-rich territories. Many fear the region could be Asia’s next flash point for conflict. In a separate meeting, senior Chinese officials will meet with Southeast Asian nations in Beijing over the weekend to discuss implementation of an agreement aimed at safeguarding peace in the West Philippine Sea, Liu said. The meeting between China and the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations begins Friday. It centers on a 2002 Asean-China declaration that calls on all claimants not to take steps that could spark tensions in the seas, which are crossed by vital shipping lanes. web origin |
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| AZKALS | Jan 13 2012, 04:00 PM Post #1242 |
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History will 'REPEAT' itself... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy2ZrFphSmc&feature=share |
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| Goose | Jan 13 2012, 05:48 PM Post #1243 |
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The Chinese won't back down with their claim, we won't back down with ours as well. Kailangan talaga nating magdagdag ng mga barkong pandigma. China views the entire South China Sea as its entire territory so ibig sabihin marami pang beses na papasok ang mga barko nya sa territorial waters natin kasi ididiin nila na wala silang nilalabag na teritoryo, and without a credible warship and warplanes eh hanggang nuod na lang gagawin natin |
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| bulastika | Jan 15 2012, 10:14 PM Post #1244 |
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Assuming we have submarine.. Are we willing to shoot chinese ship if its near palawan? Can we afford to have naval war wtih china? If we want to protect kalayaan groups of islands we need to educate our fellow men. Mahirap kasi sa ibang filipino pagnadiin tyo dito sa spratly kaya supportahan yung government natin sisihin pa nila. I believe if we want to have strong claim to kalayaan groups of islands we need not only modern naval and air force we also need supporta ng masa. |
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| spearhead | Jan 15 2012, 11:21 PM Post #1245 |
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DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer.
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The philippines should also push their claims in WPS by historical grounds backed by the geneva convention law of EEZ territorial claims otherwise they might lose the fight. |
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| TonyStark2020 | Jan 16 2012, 12:47 AM Post #1246 |
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Hindi iyan ang punto Comrade, walang naiwan iyan sa pulis na may baril o yung pulis na walang baril! Sino sa kanila ang pakikinggan mo o pangingilagan mo?? Sa picture nalang kahit luma din siya anong panama ng PF-15 Goryo kahit lagyan pa ng Missile iyan laban sa tunay na DESTROYER WARSHIP ng China? Tapos ano ang planong bilhin pa rin natin, mga Ala "GORYO" PA RIN ang resbak nila?!! MAS MABUTI PA AYAIN NALANG NATIN SILA "TSUMONGKI" PARA PEACE MEN NALANG! ![]() Pang sikyo lang ang atin at yung sa kanila pang Commando Navy seal ang kalidad! |
| I AM NOT PINOY, "I AM A FILIPINO" There is a BiG difference! | |
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| Ayoshi | Jan 16 2012, 01:47 AM Post #1247 |
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+1 and we should always do it in a diplomatic way while we our AFP still modernizing itself.
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| THE_NEWS_MAN | Jan 16 2012, 05:16 AM Post #1248 |
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Let’s discuss Spratlys, PH urges Asean By Jerry E. Esplanada Philippine Daily Inquirer MANILA, Philippines—The Philippines has called on the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) anew to hold a meeting of Spratlys claimant-countries, including China, to resolve the conflicting claims in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea). Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario sounded the call during the just-concluded Asean foreign ministers meeting in Siem Reap, Cambodia. In a statement, Del Rosario said Asean was “at a critical juncture of playing a momentous role in the resolution of the disputes in the West Philippine Sea” based on the rules-based regime of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea or Unclos. “We must now muster the will as an Asean community to face these sensitive issues with determination,” he said. “It behooves member-states to now play a positive and meaningful role to solve the disputes peacefully in accordance with the (Asean) Treaty of Amity and Cooperation and reach a stage whereby we are able to help resolve sensitive issues decisively without letting such issues fester and adversely affect the progress of our bilateral or multilateral relations,” Del Rosario said. The secretary noted that “in the context of the Philippine position and the background on this issue, the Philippines reiterates its proposal that a meeting be held as soon as possible among claimant-states, including China, under the guidance of Asean to resolve the conflicting claims in the West Philippine Sea based on the rules-based regime of Unclos.” “This proposal for constructive engagement should be acceptable to all,” he added. Del Rosario had made the same proposal in November last year. “Thus far, we are pleased that fellow Asean member-states support the rules-based approach, which essentially calls for solving the issue peacefully in accordance with the rule of law, particularly Unclos, and the multilateral participation of various stakeholders to account for the various perspectives and interests,” he said. “These principles are the very bedrock of our international order,” he added. web origin (CLICK HERE) |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jan 16 2012, 04:57 PM Post #1249 |
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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Philippines seeks Asian summit on disputed islands Associated Press 1:03 pm | Sunday, January 15th, 2012 MANILA, Philippines – The Philippines is urging the Association of Southeast Asian Nations to hold a summit of China and five other Asian claimants to disputed South China Sea territories. ![]() West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) AFP FILE PHOTO / Kalayaan Island Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said Sunday he asked his ASEAN counterparts in Cambodia last week to back the Philippines’ call for the 10-member bloc to organize such a meeting “as soon as possible.” He said Manila is ready to host the meeting. China has frowned on any resolution involving several countries and wants to negotiate directly with each claimant. Many fear the disputes could become a flash point for conflict. Senior Chinese and ASEAN diplomats met in Beijing over the weekend to discuss possible joint projects aimed at building trust among claimants. Link |
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| Mckoyzzz | Jan 16 2012, 05:29 PM Post #1250 |
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Senators help DFA lobby for code of conduct on South China Sea Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:50 Butch Fernandez / Reporter SENATORS are assisting the Department of Foreign Affairs in seriously wooing support among Asian parliamentarians for the early adoption of a “legally binding” Code of Conduct aimed at reaching a peaceful resolution of conflicting claims over resource-rich territories by several countries in the South China Sea (SCS). Sens. Franklin Drilon and Edgardo Angara are leading a Philippine delegation to the ongoing 20th Annual Meeting of the Asia-Pacific Parliamentary Forum (APPF) in Tokyo, Japan, from January 8 to 12. Speaking at the parliamentarians’ forum, Drilon asserted that “a legally binding Code of Conduct accepted by all Asean [Association of Southeast Asian Nations] claimants of the West Philippine Sea will resolve a decades-old dispute in the region.” “As one of the 15 founding members of the APPF, the Philippines recognizes that interparliamentary organizations are an indispensable medium of international and regional cooperation,” Drilon said. In pushing for the approval of the Code of Conduct during his speech at the APPF meeting, Drilon recalled that during the November 2011 Asean Summit, the Philippines proposed the establishment of a zone of peace, freedom and cooperation in the West Philippine Sea. He added that Indonesia, which hosted the summit, has suggested that this proposal “be linked with the drafting of a legally binding Code of Conduct.” According to Drilon, “Asean leaders anticipate that the Code of Conduct will be adopted by the Asean claimant states this year.” At the same time, the senator affirmed the Philippines’s commitment to maintain order and stability in the Asia-Pacific region and its support for a rules-based framework that ensures a peaceful resolution on various issues besetting the region. He noted that the Asia-Pacific region has posted remarkable growth rates because it has been a relatively peaceful and harmonious community, showing considerable unity and stability, especially during times of crisis. “As parliamentarians of the Asia-Pacific, we all face a common destiny. We are all committed to follow the same development path. It is imperative for us to explore different avenues to strengthen cooperation within the framework of the APPF,” he stressed. During the same forum, Drilon also prodded APPF members to ratify international agreements on migrant rights such as the United Nations’ Convention on the Protection of the Rights of Migrant Workers and their families. “The Philippines is widely acknowledged as a major supplier of human resource to the global economy. We attach special importance to the promotion and protection of the rights of our migrant workers, including protection from exploitation, abuse and violence,” Drilon said. “We seek rules governing the conduct of nations in the region as well as rules that will protect migrant workers in the Asia-Pacific and the rest of the world.” Link |
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