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The Kalayaan, Panatag & other disputed islands; Future conflict zones?
Topic Started: Feb 2 2005, 08:00 PM (156,006 Views)
ni84
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Xwolf
Oct 17 2011, 07:20 AM
ni84 let us create our own design then! No more US or Russian Design I'm Currently downloading a web designer to create a sketch for our own AFV i suggest you do the same and who ever finish up first create a new thread that would definitely help our local manufacturers. that way we could Finally say The Philippine Brand.

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Design and Capabilities must meet Philippine Defense Requirements

Weapons System Must be with in own capability needing to say NO ICBM or Missile Laden Aircraft loaded with the state of the art weapon system

Lets stick with reality!

By all means do it, right now I am talking to my uncle who has a background in ship design as he is working in a German company that specializes in ship design.
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Both Naval and AFV capabilities our country has it. for the Air Force that has to wait since we still need a Aircraft manufacturing plant here. Eveyone is open to this. will post one once i'm done with my own design if anyone does come first with their own pls feel free to create a new one.
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Philippines unfazed by Taiwan Spratlys missile plan

MANILA—The Philippines said Sunday it was prepared to defend its claims in the South China Sea, but downplayed a plan by Taiwan to deploy missiles in the area.

The island of Kalayaan, which means "Freedom" in the Filipino language, that was created in 1978 mainly to assert the Philippines' claim to the disputed territory in the Spratlys, a chain of islets in the West Philippine Sea. AFP/Kayalaan Municipal office
Defence department spokesman Zosimo Jesus Paredes said the country enjoyed good relations with Taiwan and believed its plan to supply missiles to coastguard units in the areas it claims was not a threat to the Philippines.
“We cannot dictate on Taiwan on what or what not to do,” Paredes told reporters. “For as long as they don’t occupy what we already occupy, we have no problem. Live and let live.”
However, he said Manila was prepared to “defend to the hilt” islets it has already occupied in the Spraltys.
But when asked whether Manila considered a move towards aggression, he said: “Not really… we should not be over reactive.”
Paredes stressed the government still believed in pursuing a peaceful solution, but stressed Taiwan’s move might be misunderstood by some claimants as provocative.
He said Taiwan’s move could be seen as “unsettling” by other claimants to the area, stressing that it should have officially informed them of its plan so as not to escalate tensions.
“I think moves like these should be coordinated (with other claimants) so that we will not be taken aback,” he said.


http://globalnation.inquirer.net/15499/phi...ys-missile-plan
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The defence ministry added that in case of military conflicts, Taiwanese coastguards could hardly defend themselves against the Philippine forces equipped with naval gunboats, Lin added


Aside from the obvious comical character of such statement, one thing does seem unsettling: it becomes obvious that the Taiwanese do not view us as a "nice neighbour" that can be trusted, but as a potential threat.

I've been wondering for a bit about this issue: is nationalist China (Taiwan) really an ally or is it simply an ally out of necessity - due to the threat of the PRC (my enemy's enemy is my friend): but what happens when the tension between the two Chinas disappear? Taiwan still claims areas that are part of Philippine territory.

The South-Koreans we surely can trust. But we should be careful with those that are militarily superior and habe an interest in land that rightfully belongs to us.
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we could place weapons on our disputed reefs and islands but the current technology that we have we cant afford or its embarrassing to pace such weapons at this time. anyway Taiwan can afford it right now and we dont yet.
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Taiwan sees us more as a competition on the disputed island. If this is how they view then we must return the favor and view them as a threat to our troops stationed there.
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We actually don't have interest or claims in the Taiwan declared Isle. They're more worried of Chinese ambitions than us. with us they can negotiate, with China its just not possible. anyway let them arm their islands that's more worries for the PLAN Navy and buys us time to acquire and procure much needed hardware's first.
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http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-unfaz...-071712655.html

The Philippines said Sunday it was prepared to defend its claims in the South China Sea, but downplayed a plan by Taiwan to deploy missiles in the area.
Defence department spokesman Zosimo Jesus Paredes said the country enjoyed good relations with Taiwan and believed its plan to supply missiles to coastguard units in the areas it claims was not a threat to the Philippines.
"We cannot dictate on Taiwan on what or what not to do," Paredes told reporters. "For as long as they don't occupy what we already occupy, we have no problem. Live and let live."
However, he said Manila was prepared to "defend to the hilt" islets it has already occupied in the Spraltys. He did not elaborate.
China claims all of the South China Sea, including the Spratlys, a group of islands and islets believed to sit atop vast oil and mineral reserves.
Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, the Philippines and Malaysia also lay claim to all or part of the Spratlys.
The overlapping claims have been a source of tension in the region, with the United States reiterating a call to all parties last week to peacefully solve the problem following Taiwan's threat.
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We must monitor all claimants of the disputed islands and not limit it only with China.
We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job.
Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, 1941

We'll settle this the old navy way: first guy to die, loses.
President Thomas 'Tug' Benson, Hot Shots! Part Deux

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Oct. 17, 2011 6:19 AM ET
US, Philippine marines begin drills near Spratlys

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — About 3,000 U.S. and Filipino marines started two weeks of annual military drills in the Philippines on Monday that will include a hostile beach assault exercise near the disputed Spratly Islands.

U.S. Marine 1st Lt. Nick Eisenbeiser said the Oct. 17-28 maneuvers would focus on honing their joint capability to ensure regional security and were not aimed at China or any country as an imaginary target.

"They shouldn't get worried," Eisenbeiser told The Associated Press, when asked if the exercises were aimed at China, whose growing naval power has set off concerns in the region. "We're assisting the Chinese in ensuring that their region is peaceful."

The exercises would ensure that U.S. and Philippine forces could jointly respond to "anything that arises," he said.

The United States irked Beijing last year by asserting that Washington had a national security interest in the peaceful resolution of the disputes over the Spratly Islands.

The potentially oil-rich islands are located in the South China Sea, between Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia, and straddle some of the world's busiest sea lanes.

China seeks to resolve the disputes through bilateral talks with five other claimants, including the Philippines. Beijing has rejected any U.S. role in the resolution of the disputes over the islands.

Philippine military spokeswoman 1st Lt. Cherryl Tindog said an Oct. 27 drill will involve a mock raid by about 100 U.S. and Filipino marines from an American warship to capture a hostile beachhead west of Palawan province, which faces the South China Sea.

Other events include a live-fire exercise in Crow Valley in Tarlac province, north of Manila, and medical missions and school constructions in several Philippine towns.

Philippine marine Brig. Gen. Eugenio Clemen said the exercises with U.S. forces would be confined to the country's territory so "nobody could question that."

The Philippines and Vietnam, another Spratlys claimant, have separately accused Chinese vessels of intruding into what they say is their part of the contested areas and of disrupting oil explorations in their territorial waters this year.

Both countries have since discussed those allegations with China and renewed calls for the peaceful resolution of the disputes, easing monthslong tensions.
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